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and in the judgment that electors have to make but electoral college is the reality here. electoral college is a bunch of electors who are charged by the constitution with an obligation to make a judgment about whether they will affirm the results that have come from their states and that s exactly the decision they re making right now and the judgment needs to be as rj has said one that looks to the constitution and the purpose of the restrictions the constitution imposes on the president. so you want them to go against their states and what they committed to and switch? i want them to vote their conscience. if i might. please. go ahead. forgive me, i m trying to understand. i hear you say vote their conscience but that kind of means not vote for trump. not necessarily.