kids could play. on the month anniversary of the sandy hook slaughter. the commercial going after the president s kids. wayne lapierre did more to damage the nra than any democrat or liberal could ever do. he totally did. i can t imagine anybody who would look at his performance and say, well, that was produ productive for the nra. it just wasn t. he hurt himself and his organization. again, i saw david kaine last week on, i think, anderson. did a very good job. very rational explanation. there is a debate there. there s a real debate over universal background checks. there s a real debate over all these issues, but the nra hasn t had it because wayne lapierre has been so extreme. all right. chuck todd, thank you very much. bob woodward, thank you so much as well. coming up, tens of thousands gather on washington s national mall to call on president obama to reject the keystone pipeline oil deal, but will this