their founder, marina butina. aleksander torshin hired marina butina, who won a political contest put on by the kremlin. she comes from a hunting background, very comfortable with guns. she won a regional political competition, sort of caught the eye of aleksander torshin. she founded the group right to bear arms which turned into a russian clone in moscow of the nra, so promoting a sort of second amendment in russia, all kinds of advances in gun rights, which they ve had very sort of modest success. but this effort was part of the you know, influence operation, essentially, to capture the attention of the nra. and this interchange between her group, and she and torshin and the nra sending delegations back and forth between the nra consequenti