heard this tape where trayvon is essentially killed right before his very ears. he listens to this. so you can understand he had the reaction that he did. the problem for me today was i would have liked to have seen the prosecutors call mr. martin in their case in chief instead of allowing the defense to call him as a defense witness after having two police officers testify and say essentially, we let mr. martin listen to this tape, and he said no, it wasn t trayvon s voice. so then it pits tracy martin against the police officers. and there is this question of who do you believe? that was my problem with the state allowing mr. martin to be called as a defense witness today. now lisa, is it arguable that the prosecution let the defense call tracy martin because they knew the defense cannot go but so far in impeaching their own
the defense claims that it is not possible to say who was screaming on that call. joining me now is former criminal prosecutor faith jenkins, and nbc news legal analyst lisa bloom. thank you both for being here tonight. thank you. thank you. faith, the 911 tape is a critical piece of evidence in the trial. the audio hearing resumes tomorrow, and it s all about the analysis of whose voice is screaming. what do you expect the judge to rule? i still think the judge is going to rule to allow this expert testimony in and let the jury decide how much weight they re going to give to the experts testimony. let me be clear about something. i think if the fbi had been able to analyze this tape and come to a clear conclusion about who was screaming, i think this case would be over. that s how clear and important it is. because the person who is screaming, the inference is that person is the one who was being attacked. now lisa, how important to the defense using self-defense
assumption that night? why did you think he was up to no good? why did you call him an a-hole on this 911 tape when you don t know him? but he has to take the witness stand. it s going to be awkward. it s going to be tough, but i think he has to testify. lisa, how does he establish self-defense when he was the only one there other than martin? how does he establish self-defense if he does not take the stand? let me give you another point of view. i don t know if he needs to take the stand. he submitted to hours of police interrogation, and that s on a videotape. that may come in. his attorney may look at that and say he did a good job. he s credible. that s his story. why should i put him on and subject him to cross-examination. he has given so many interviews, i don t think his attorney can keep him off the witness stand in the trial. we re getting closer. we re down to next phase to actually get the members of the jury. we re going to stay on this case. faith jenkins and lisa
unencumbered screams, they re saying, and these experts took the three seconds and looped them to come up with a sample to test. that s the dispute. the fbi is saying three seconds isn t enough. they re saying we looped it and we were able to test it. so we ll see how the judge rules. i still think she allows it in. it s going to be up to the jury to determine how much weight they re going to give to the testimony. lisa, take news the courtroom. if you re prosecuting this case, you re prosecuting george zimmerman, how would you handle this part of the case? i think it s tough. well, i would certainly say that this is trayvon martin. and i want to put on this expert witness as the prosecution wants to do, or at least eliminate george zimmerman as the person who is screaming. the problem is that i don t know if we have a voice sample of trayvon martin to compare it to. we certainly have voice samples from george zimmerman because he called the police earlier that day. right. so w
you know, yesterday, lisa, the judge heard from the defense s audio expert. listen to what he said. this is james whalen. when you crank up the volume on something that contains fundamentally no content, it s like a rorschach test. you start reading into any of this what your neural pathways are doing, not which occurred in the external stimuli you re trying to pay attention to. didn t understand the methodology. i was baffled. he is baffled. he doesn t understand the methodology. but is that enough to get an analysis thrown out? i mean he is not questioning what is said on the tape. he is talking about methodology? well, he is, reverend al, because in any court when scientific or technical evidence is introduced in, it has to be generally accepted in the scientific community. i think what he is saying there is just not enough of this recording to do the proper