of the most horrific attacks in the country gunmen from the so malia based islamized militia al-shabaab stormed a university in april 2015 they took more than 700 students hostage before killing those who identified as christians and releasing the muslims before gunman was shot by kenyan security forces shot dead that is and the defendants in the current trial facing terrorism charges related to the attack. now kenya s response to terrorism has been heavy handed in the pasta after the attack people were arbitrarily arrested and detained without trial human rights watch ses the police and military carried out forced disappearances and even killed people suspected to have links with al shabaab so does this make kenya any safer for more on this and the security situation in the country we ve invited a security consultant in nairobi in windham be doing it for me he served in the
for us and my assessment of the loss of peoples on our show you for sure but there is also tremendous and since 2016 would not have been made up there was a box in nairobi until the recent one at busy don t tell so looking at what they actually had previously and this person and we did not been good ok we re talking about a terrorist group al-shabaab that this is that this has been called a terrorist group it s recognized as such as nationally it say is that it is retaliating against kenya. kenya s military incursions in so mali yet now $11.00 does is the simple solution in the case of kenya to to pull its troops out of somalia so that al-shabaab has no beef with kenya so to say. not at all i don t think into this in somalia only 2 percent interest they have their own the. african union and actually the united nations and so.
country s air force air defense control unit welcome to d.w. africa we have human rights watch is saying that kenya is counter terror attack 6 have not been all that successful date point to the fact that however much force has been used it s not really resulted in preventing attacks by al-shabaab what is your assessment of the situation. thank you for having me and greetings to all of us i i want to be for a little with the human rights watch report that 10 are getting a sample not one result in all our troops are cross the border to somalia or indeed or think question about troops to some idea that we ve got you know immense success like in the house about but not really here back home the point isn t that what the government put in place stopping terrorists or terrorist cells. actually bought one
to learn the law. the bottom line all of us has one common denominator and that s hunger for justice because all of us want to get justice in court. the incredible thing that in kenya institutions like this which were originally meant for correction have been turned almost overnight into institutions of learning. for him, the first kenyan to earn law degree with the africans prison project, the future is about leaving no one behind bars. or if it s the criminal justice system that got them behind bars wrongly like in my case and many other case, they don t have to fight it, they ll fight it legally and then they they re hopeful for tomorrow. reporter: cnn, kenya. (man) managing my type 2 diabetes wasn t my top priority.
what it is now. the prison model was based on the old colonial system which was focussed on punishing inmates. there was a lot of torture and human rights abuses. but from 2003 things change and the prisons department had a shift from punishment to correction and rehabilitation. he worries what is seen as a prison reform. he thinks the justice system, though, is still unbalanced. there are many, they re ordinary people, stealing a chicken because they are hungry. they are easily sent to jail. the people who are corrupt, they are never in jail. there is the system is weighted against the small person and the big people they get away with it. now kenya s prisons are more like schools where the focus is on education. the ngo africa prisons project have taken rehabilitation a step further by assisting prisoners