matter where this case is tried it s going to go up to the midlevel court of appeals whether in state or federal court. if you get into the federal court you have the 11th circuit court of appeals famously conservative, really seen as the second most conservative of the 13 appellate courts in the united states, they ve ruled against trump but if you are a trump you want that 11th circuit and finally most importantly if you get into federal court your next move if mark meadows gets there you ask for dismissal on the basis of immunity if you can show you were within the scope of your job and were not doing anything more and that s the whole ball of wax. we ll dig in more. sara. joining us now cnn anchor and senior political analyst john avlon and former deputy white house press secretary under donald trump, sara matthews, as well as cnn political analyst, you can come over here, it s fine and national politics reporter for the new york times. thank you so much for coming on.
at nine eastern. closed captioning brought to you by flexible family of products will swift here this is flex superglue get flex superglue and the entire flexible family of products at flexible products .com. wants to discuss this morning when it hasn t released to the former president donald trump, vowing to fight the criminal charges against him. he delivered a defiant primetime speech from his mar-a-lago resort filled with insults against the prosecutor and the judge in the case. he also argued that prosecutors are now interfering in an election. incredibly we are now a failing nation. we are a nation in decline. and now these radical left lunatics want to interfere with our elections by using law enforcement. we can t let that happened. so joining us now cnn