But it may soon be dwarfed by the numbers starving to death. Yemen is experiencing a humanitarian catastrophe which the warring parties are making worse and which the outside world seems unwilling, or unable, to tackle. My guest is the un humanitarian coordinator in the country, jamie mcgoldrick. Is he losing the struggle to save millions of lives . Jamie mcgoldrick, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you. Here you sit on a visit to the united kingdom. Your base is in yemen. Yeah. What is the right word to describe the situation in yemen today . Is the word famine the right one . Well, famine will come if the Current Conditions continue. I think the war, the conflict, the insecurity, and the collapse of the economy, all of that is lending itself to a situation where people have no other choice but to slip into that. You know, there are 7 Million People in the country already who are in a very fragile situation in terms of the food security. If we cannot respond by giving them medical support.
and join the ukraine army. i tried to go back to a normal life and frankly speaking, like, when you see those kind of things, like, the atrocities, like, during my time in syria, i saw mass graves that isis has created. i saw a lot of things that the normal person shouldn t see. erm, so when i did go back, i did try to, like, get back to a normal life. but for me, i struggled a lot after that because after everything i saw, like, itjust wasn t right for me tojust go back, like, work a normal day to dayjob. you see, this gets to the heart of what i find so interesting about you. and notjust you, but there are hundreds, thousands of foreigners who do sign up for causes, for wars of which they re not fighting for their own soil. they re fighting for someone else s soil. i m just wondering also whether there comes a point where there is an addiction to fighting, to the adrenaline, to the excitement. erm.
i tried to go back to a normal life and frankly speaking, when you see those kind of things, the atrocities. during my time in syria, i saw mass graves that isis has created. i saw a lot of things that the normal person shouldn t see. so, when i did go back, i did try to get back to a normal life. but for me, i struggled a lot after that because after everything i saw, itjust wasn t right for me to just go back, work a normal day to dayjob. you see, this gets to the heart of what i find so interesting about you and notjust you, but there are hundreds, thousands of foreigners who do sign up for causes, for wars of which they re not fighting for their own soil, they re fighting for someone else s soil. i m just wondering also whether there comes a point where there is an addiction to fighting, to the adrenaline, to the excitement.
you re still only in your early 20s. yeah. and yet. and yet you then, within a year or two, decide to go to ukraine and join the ukraine army. i tried to go back to a normal life and frankly speaking, like, when you see those kind of things, like, the atrocities, like, during my time in syria, i saw mass graves that isis has created. i saw a lot of things that the normal person shouldn t see. erm, so when i did go back, i did try to, like, get back to a normal life. but for me, i struggled a lot after that because after everything i saw, like, itjust wasn t right for me tojust go back, like, work a normal day to dayjob. you see, this gets to the heart of what i find so interesting about you. and notjust you, but there are hundreds, thousands of foreigners who do sign up
notjust you. but i get it. it feels like, not just feels like, you. but i get it. it feels like, notjust feels like, it, there are instances where it s like america, what is wrong, what is your problem? excuse me, with black people? why is it in every turn on the road it seems there are barriers put up. you know, to keep the community from progressing. we need to look at that as a nation. progressing. we need to look at that as a nation- as a nation. what do you think your father would say as a nation. what do you think your father would say about as a nation. what do you think your father would say about all - as a nation. what do you think your father would say about all that - as a nation. what do you think your father would say about all that if. father would say about all that if he was giving the same speech this week? at he was giving the same speech this week? ., ., ., , week? a lot of what he said probably would be repeated. week? a lot of what he said probably would