polish government has signed security pack with ukraine and united kingdom promise to go work together as the threat of russian invasion of ukraine and concern about vladimir putin s larger ambitions grow. mike tobin live in southern poland. mike: one of the places which u.s. forces have been deployed. most of from the 82nd airborne and some from 101st. given their history in europe the mere presence of the paratroopers and soldiers is intended to send a message that the u.s. stands with its nato allies. their task is described as multimission capable. they could help u.s. citizens out here who get in trouble. they very well could provide manpower in the event that the polish border gets overwhelmed with ukrainian refugees and that potential is something that has polish government officials losing sleep.
exercise. today across ukraine people remembering more than 100 ukrainians massacred in capital city, two days later president fled to moscow ending putin s hope to keep government intact. 30 years in the making since soviet union broke apart. he s obsessed over ukraine. putin word 5,000 word essay over the summer calling ukrainians and russians one people. many disagree. it doesn t matter which part of ukraine, west or east or crimea, everyone chose to be independent and the world including russia accepted this choice. lucas: in 1994 ukraine has the largest arsenal and gave up russia respecting borders.
mike: ukrainians have been immigrated to poland since 2014 can the takeover of crimea and destabilization of the eastern part of the country. so there will be some infrastructure, some soft spots that could absorb ukrainian refugees but if they come in the numbers predicted, they will simply be too many, mike. mike: mike, is part of the concern that if things get hot with russia and ukraine, once you start shooting in some conflict like that, that it could have an impact in terms of perhaps ammunitions going to polish territories as well? mike: well, there s always the potential. there s a lot of security that border is nato and borders with ukraine and different ball of wax if russian artillery were to cross and even with european union. you can t cross the nato border,
appalled when the reset policy was announced. that was the signal to putin that despite having invaded georgia and occupied large swath of its territory, everything was okay. we wanted to reset relations with russia in a new administration. and i just think back to with the president at the time, he said, look, it s bad that russia invaded georgia but if they invade ukraine that s going to be a big problem and then the then president of georgia said after what they just done in georgia, crimea is next. he predicted. crimea. so to sum it all up during the years from 2009 when the reset policy was announced and implemented until 2014 when russia invaded ukraine the first time, russia launched its biggest piece time military build-up in history in northwest russia, in the baltic states to threaten our nato allies,
solidify the defacto of separation under russian controlled leadership so that in the future those regions of ukraine will vote forever to keep ukraine out of nato. so we will see a lot of cyber-attacks, political destabilization and god forbid but i think a military operation at least in donbas. mike: i want to play a clip from the a russian official and i want you to respond. there s no innovation and no such plans. russian troops are on sovereign russian territory. we don t threaten anyone. mike: russian ambassador to u.s. saying, nothing to see here, your thoughts? it s utterly ridiculousment you don t deploy 130, 150 or 190,000 troops on the border of a country not in a threatening way. by definition, not only is that threatening it s illegal. it s contrary to russia s own pledges under numerous