gonna do everything he can to get the prosecution moved to federal court. i just think the treatment will be better. he also have concern about, quite frankly, if there is successful prosecution. he probably doesn t want to go to prison. he would probably rather be in a federal facility where his status as former president of the united states might give him additional benefits. i think he would really like to get it to the federal courts and leave georgia behind. one of the things that stuck out to me and reading these indictments, i m not a lawyer but i did serve in government for two presidents, the ways in which jeffrey clark a department of justice official, trying to use the department of justice and other officials to overturn the will of the people in the election. you have been a very focal defender of the institution and the people who work there. what was your reaction when you read about his actions and his efforts? but well, astonishment in anger. the fact that he wo
pardon from the president or from some republican president in the future. i would be looking, first, rudy giuliani. obviously been steadfast and loyal to this point. but, trump is not paying its bills. that is, obviously, going to create some problems. he has a lot of exposure. i would also say mark meadows, his chief of staff, who has kind of dance that dance for a long time about avoiding charges by, somewhat, cooperating with the fans. he, i think, is being called in georgia in a much more dramatic way because he is indicted. can chesebro. all of these people are rich targets. speaking of mark meadows and his dancing, just to keep going with neil s analogy there, a new report this morning that mark meadows told prosecutors he didn t remember trump declassifying documents in the mar-a-lago case. i don t know how important it is. also, what does that tell you? what does that read into that willingness to cooperate in other cases? he is a witness and many of
a change of venue argument. mark meadows has asked, requested to move it to federal court, which would be in northern georgia, different jury pool. others may do the same. aside from having a different jury pool, what advantages, or why would these defendants want it to be in a federal court, as opposed to a georgia court? well, we will middle out m to avail themselves of certain federal defenses, maybe they ll try and immunity defense. i think the other thing, as of late, there are no cameras in federal court. and so, the state system has a lot more transparency for the ordinary citizens to see what s happening on a daily basis. and so, while mr. meadows and presumably others are seeking this removal, i think we need to see what the dea is gonna say in her required brief. i think there might be arguments to the effect of, anything dealing with elections is outside of both the president as well as the chief
me here on set today. i want to start this, you know fani willis. you knew her years ago. and this is the 11th rico case that has been charged since became district attorney. why is that important and what do you think she could take from her experience prosecuting these cases? nk she could anytime that youe handled a similar case before you have lessons that you ve learned, and you carry them into the next case, so now she has done this, not only personally in her own career but she has come up from it being a younger prosecutor to obviously now being the elected d.a. but even in her short term as d.a., you see that she has indicted at least 11 other cases, using this methodology. and it is a fantastic tool for georgia prosecutors that have a complex set of facts with multiple defendants. but you can tell that they are all working together. and the georgia rico statute allows you to tell the whole story, as opposed to just bits and pieces that might underline specific crimes that are
for a while, this case was kind of under the radar with all the focus on the federal level. but georgia is so bad for donald trump for so many different reasons. first of all, trump is facing state, not federal charges here. and the president cannot pardon anyone for state crimes, no president can. so you know that that worry that you might have at the back of your head, that trump, if he is reelected, he could wave a wand and pardon himself, he and his loyal conspirators as well, for all of the crimes, well, he can t in georgia. the governor can t either. georgia is one of a handful of state we are perils go to an independent both. and they cannot considered pardons until at least five years. and this is far from district attorney fani willis s first go at bringing charges under a rico statute. this is the 11th frequent indictment brought by her office and should be and this was one of many cases she prosecuted over her career,