head in some way, shape or form. when sarah sanders was asked about that she said she knew of no conversations about pardons going on inside the white house. jim acosta, thanks very much. we have breaking news on all of this, here is what the president s tv lawyer rudy giuliani, told the wall street journal. he said, i m quoting, right now would not be the time. it s my job as his private lawyer to tell him he should not consider it now because it would be misunderstood. it doesn t mean you give away your presidential prerogative to do it at the right time. manafort, he said, should get the same consideration as anyone else. we ve got quite a group to talk about this. carrie cordero is here, malik henderson, former senator rick santorum, jen sakki. nonlegal term. is this a non-sketchy reason paul manafort would have had meetings? this is guardian reporting, we