bannon, and there s just no two ways about it right now. well, there s a number of normal moderate republicans that are dead-set against this, but when you bring thugs and bullies into it, it makes it very difficult to govern for either side. mr. marchant is clearly supported by the state chairman and was right next to them when they did the false electoral certification that they sent up to the federal government, saying that president trump won the state. and make no mistake. i supported president trump. i think his policies were fantastic. he did help the economy dramatically. but this is not the way to govern and, you know, some people are being very poorly served, and i don t think he understands the magnitude of what s happening in the field. this is just not a way to win. you do voter registration
reporter: barbara walter is a professor at the university of california in san diego. she has studied civil conflict for years from yugoslavia to northern ireland. experts who study civil wars and know the warning signs, we ve been talking about them, but nobody wanted to believe it. and january 6th made it impossible to deny and ignore that there really was this cancer growing in our own country. stop the steal! there was a threat that was mobilizing. reporter: she warns the constant barrage of lies undermining elections from right wing media, on social media, and from trump himself has put the united states on a perilous path. citizens do believe what they are hearing, and if they hear it long enough and consistently enough and if that s all they hear, they absolutely don t think it s a lie. they think it s the truth. will you trust the next
more like a profile in calculation. still more chur chilean from what we ve seen from texas senator ted cruz. you called this a terror attack when by no definition was a terror attack. that s a lie. you told that lie on purpose. the way i phrased things yesterday it was sloppily, and it was frankly dumb. i don t buy that. i ve known you for a long time since before you went to the senate. you were a supreme court contender. and every word you repeated that phrase, i do not believe that you used that accidently. it still hurts to watch that. since then senator tail between his legs has been spreading this tucker carlson branded manure there was some kind of fbi plot to instigate the attack on the capitol and blame trump supporters.
election? probably not. but that s a terrible thing, right? yeah, it s a terrible thing. i don t think you can trust our government anymore. it s sad, but i really don t think you can. that s what trump is all about and making the elections in the future fairer so we can believe when you vote for somebody, that person s going to get your vote. they re good people. they re trying to do what they think is right. it s the leadership that s cynical. it s leadership that knows better who s feeding them lies consistently. they re always talking about the big lie. they re the big lie. while just 30% of americans think there is solid evidence that there was widespread fraud in the 2020 election, 62% of republicans say so. looking ahead to the 2022 mid-term elections, only 42% of republicans say they re very positive the results will be counted accurately. they re priming their supporters to believe that democracy isn t worth defending
donald trump s relentless attacks on the truth has eroded faith in american democracy and its institutions. you don t trust the election officials? nope. you don t trust the fbi? nope. you don t trust the courts? no. who do you trust? trump and his supporters and anybody that has that when i listen to them talk, they don t turn my stomach with the disingenuousness. do you have trust and faith now in american democracy and american elections? no. i mean i think whoever wins, wins. i m all about that. he will win if he runs again. but the people that know that we were cheated are almost at the point of saying, i don t want to vote because it will happen again. what is your reaction to hearing from an american like that? well, ten years ago it would have been shock and disbelief, and i would have thought, well, she s an outlier, and she s not representative of anything larger than a fringe movement maybe. but of course that s not the case anymore.