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democrat says isis is more focused on quantity of attacks and al qaeda on quality. mike barrett is with us now, a former defense department intelligence official and he s currently the director of the center for security and resilience, which describes itself as a new nonpartisan think tank focusing on homeland security. nice to see you. good to see you, shep. where are we in this debate. there are lots of opinions but i think there s two things you want to keep in mind. one, this is the classic divide between homeland security and national security. national security is the over there game where you ve got the cia and certain elements of the intelligence community and the military keeping an eye on things abroad. those tend to be the larger attacks as you were just describing. those are the big more impactful 9/11-style attacks. on the flip side you have lots of incidents like what you ve seen with single shooters. so the way that you deal with the single shooters is by state an

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