flourishes. go ahead. let s talk about the speakers that we re going to hear from, because we re going to hear from three, both michael powell who is the son, the only son of colin powell, and he is a former chairman of the federal communications commission president biden meeting his predecessors and first lady jill biden saying hello to the predecessors. we ve kind of gotten used to seeing this image because we ve had several state funerals. john mccain s was like a state funeral and we ve had former president and others in recent years, but this is really unusual for sub-like colin powell to have this kind of funeral at the national cathedral. there s just a few non-presidents who have had this kind of event at the national cathedral. this is dancing queen by be a ba. we know one of general powell s
powell did. i mean, you re a presidential historian, but i didn t know who else to call today to get the big picture look at him besides you. you re absolutely right. you were talking about the fact that the gallup poll found him the most popular man of more than one year. how many non-presidents do that, or non-popes? pretty rare. it shows he was a figure in american history to the likes of general pershing and others sorry, michael, but i want to ask about his decision in 2008 to endorse then-candidate barack obama. i said slightly tongue in cheek that a lot of people looking back at that said, well, it s two weeks before the election but you could have ended the election then. it feels like such a determinative moment in that election. is it right to look at it that way? sure, it is, because barack
powell did. you re a presidential historian, but i didn t know who else to call today to get the big picture to look at him besides you. you re absolutely right. you were talking about the fact that the gallup poll found him the most popular man of more than one year. how many non-presidents do that, or non-popes? pretty rare. it shows he was a figure in excuse me. said with a slightly tongue-in-cheek that a lot of people looking back at that said, well, it s two weeks before the election, but you could have ended the election then. it feels like such a determinative moment in that election. is it right to look at it that way? sure, it is, because barack obama is not ready for prime time. if you and i had to choose one