who he had stood with him, obviously, and was starting to listen to people, his non-experts, people who were telling him that the election had been interfered with by venezuela, by china, and of course by italian satellites, all of which of course was false. what does this meeting mean for jack smith s investigation? well one of the things you pointed out for jack smith and his prosecution team will be trying to decipher what the former president believed. did the actually think there was fraud. did he think the election had been interfered with by venezuela or the chinese satellites. that s one of the key things for the prosecutors to try to cross the hurdle, certainly, if they bring a case against the former president, so we expect certainly from one of the questions that we understand witnesses were asked, the prosecutors seemed very much focused on that. the former president s state of mind, whether he actually believed these bogus claims or whether he really believed his exper
questioning, on what the president s state of mind was on this big question. we have seen this in other i interviews and other witnesses have had, where they are honing in on the idea that did trump really believe these fraud claims? he seemed he wanted the fbi to go out and say how good of a job they were doing to secure the election in this meeting. then just a few weeks later, he s out there politically undermining the security of the election system. by november when he sees the results, he decides to start listening to non-experts, that there was fraud from venezuela and chinese hackers and italian satellites, things that had no basis. you re exactly right. you talked about february and j changed his tune. let s play a sound byte from the
consensus when you silence anyone who disagrees with your ideas or your theory or hypothesis on climate change. yeah. and this is a page right out of the covid playbook, right? when we had a lot of experts who were making huge policy decisions x it s whey they say never let a crisis go to waste. whether it s something as tragic as a shooting or these fires that we saw last week or the whole covid crisis. if there s an opportunity to take your freedoms, to confiscate your property, left will use it as such. and that s what happens when non-experts like this administration get power, because they use it to their advantage. rachel: yeah. experts like aoc running our energy if policy. you work for an organization that advocates for energy drug. really quickly, tell us why you think fossil fuels, american energy is the way we should go and how it impacts american jobs. well, when we use fossil fuels to the fullest, we manage our forests, we manage if our electric grid, we create jobs an
justices seen as liberal and conservatives saying this is really complicated stuff. if you re someone using the internet, back in the 1990s, there was a lot of topics that platforms shouldn t be held accountable for the content on their websites. you you think of twitter and facebook and people attacking them for spreading election interference, misinformation. so a big decision here for the supreme court and it could impact the way the internet, if they rule against google here. it s going to be interesting. section 230 is expansive. it could be a narrow decision based on the algorithms or it could be something bigger. we will wait, but i think that s right. nine non-experts on all of this. including most people in the world on that. let s go to priscilla thompson in plains, georgia. the tiny town, about 500 people. gained fame as the home of former president carter, who has
human infrastructure is intertwined with physical infrastructure, it will help us create more good jobs, it will help our economy in the long run. paul: president biden in this cross wisconsin telling not only his bipartisan infrastructure deal but also what comes with it, multitrillion dollar package known as the america family spent including federal retirement, child care, paid family leave, free community college, universal pre-k and more. the past will be the largest expansion of the welfare state lyndon johnson s great society. with my next guest estimating 21 million americans, mostly in the middle class would be added to the entitlement role. john is a senior fellow at stanford university uber institution and author of the book, the high cost of good intentions on the history of entitlement programs. john, welcome from very nice to see you. for non- experts, for the viewers, define what you mean by