remembering don rumsfeld was secretary of defense that day. whatever you want to say about how he handled the job in the years after that, on that day he immediately went to the attack site, and against the objections of his security team, he stayed and started carrying stretchers and assisted there until they absolutely made him go back inside. you heard me say this before. i want to say it again. on that day the headquarters of the world s strongest military was attacked, and on that day in this place at the pentagon, personnel stayed. there was no retreat, no surrender, and they moved ahead with what they knew they would have to do and go against al qaeda in afghanistan. dana. jane harmon, you are joining us now. you were a member of the house intelligence committee in 2001. what s going through your mind? it s a somber day, a day of remembrance and resolve.
churchillian, a description that is over used, but it was so inspiring. i thought the takeaway, still defiant, him telling the ukrainian people, we will not forgive and we will not forget. reporter: it was very much his, we will fight them at the beaches speech. yes. reporter: he said there can be no retreat, no surrender. if you don t have a weapon, still stand and fight because if you lose we lose everything, we lose the nation. it was his strongest speech yet, but he also was very critical of the west, saying they cannot wait any longer to impose a no-fly zone, or if the no-fly zone is too much because it could risk a direct confrontation between the united states and other nato countries with russia, then send planes. deals are now being worked out according to secretary of state blinken to have the eastern european countries send their soviet-era planes, planes that the ukrainian pilots already know how to fly, and for the
that city? well, the upper hand, it s hard to say, really, carley. it s a very good question, but we are not getting real-time information out of mariupol purely because it is such an intense battle. last we heard, of course, was this demand from the russian forces that the ukrainian s surrender. that would indicate that the russian forces clearly have the city surrounded. they feel they have the upper hand. on the other hand, the ukrainian forces came straight back and said they will be no surrender, meaning the russian forces are going to have a very hard time taking ultimate control. but whatever happens, whoever has the upper hand at any point or another, that is going to be a bloodied battle for ultimate control of mariupol. as you mentioned at the top of your question there, carley, hundreds of thousands of civilians continue to suffer in the middle of all that. todd and carley?
against kyiv. the ukrainians know this. this is why there s no surrender in mariupol. this is the tragedy of warfare. it s always the innocent who suffer the most. and putin seems determined to do this, particularly in an effort to break ukrainian morale and put more pressure on zelenskyy to surrender for humanitarian reasons. the thing is, zelenskyy and the ukrainians understand that if they do surrender, what will happen is these russian special police will go through and arrest everybody, deport people. it will be a humanitarian catastrophe. literally fighting for their lives. quickly, if you will, is there a better way or another way for those folks in mariupol to defend themselves against these attacks that are coming from the sea, from these wa warships? actually, there isn t. as far as i can tell, there aren t juf ukrainian forces down there to break the siege. this is just one of these unfortunate circumstances where
this is bbc news. i m sally bundock with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. no surrender in mariupol. ukrainian forces refuse to give up their arms, despite an ultimatum from russia. attacks continue on the capital kyiv. several houses and a shopping centre were hit, one person is dead. as millions leave the country fleeing the violence, we meet some of the most vulnerable people left behind. all of these are victims of russian attacks. it is notjust the physical injuries. many of these children have deep psychological trauma that they will perhaps never get over. and england rolls out the latest stage of its covid vaccine programme, with a fourth jab for the most vulnerable.