power in the first place. you re the guys who disempowered the sunnis and created or exacerbated these sectarian differences. so it s it was a very odd critique, given that in many ways, there were key policies of the bush administration right after the invasion that exacerbated these sectarian tensions and the civil war that we are now living with. are you surprised oh let me ask you this, the paul bremers and the dick cheneys, these people coming forward now. a., are you surprised by the fact they re coming forward, pinning these opinion pieces, coming on national tv, and b., no onus. well, i would you would hope there would be some sense of, you know, being willing to say, look, we got some things wrong. and we got some things right. i look at, you know, my own experience with iraq. i got a bunch of things wrong, i got a bunch of things right. but i think that the odd thing here is, all of history begins in 2011 for dick cheney, when obama decides to have the troops
debt ceiling though congress would be still nominally involved, and the republicans thinks that puts the political o onus on the white house, but for the beneficiaries of social security and others, that means no cuts. is this plan c likely that the white house will accept? well, something has to give. yes. like mcconnell said, smoke and mirrors, tax increases or defau default or something else. there has to be something else. and so, this is the republicans first offer of a something else. and you know, there are all sorts of other things that they could look at doing. you know, as we have talked about before, they could use, they could assert 14th amendment authority and say that the debt ceiling is unconstitutional and i m instructing the treasury secretary to borrow more funds in order that we do not default. now, he would have to do that quickly, because you are to get the bond offering going. and the white house is not interested in that option, ryan?