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that yet because i have to be qualified and research by an internationaljudicial body but we are calling them civilian harm incidents. that is a large scale process of scraping data, validating particular photographs that may appear on twitter or telegram of facebook, preserving them in such a way that there is a chain of custody trail because thatis chain of custody trail because that is what future courts will want to have. many people are doing this sort of gathering evidence and compiling it and comparing brief but bellingcat has a tradition in testing judicially whether this evidence can hold up in court. and in particular we know how to preserve the chain of evidence, and that is what bellingcat is doing somewhat differently. bellingcat is doing somewhat differently- differently. one fascinating exam - le differently. one fascinating example of differently. one fascinating example of what differently. one fascinating example of what you - differently. one fascinating example
people that had worked in this unit had particular training for missile and rocket engineering at universities in russia with a military focus. then what we did is we got, i got, a lot of the phone records, the meta data of some of the key people in this unit and we found that they were communicating with one another, particularly on the eve of very massive strikes on ukrainian infrastructure and some hospitals and kindergartens were also hit along the way. and then essentially i confirmed that all of these people, one by one, and i have to say first of all i confronted and they did not even denied that s what they do but he said he was not authorised to the answers to the questions i m asking. it was relatively traditional journalism except it started with a data point and
christo grozev, he is idolised in the west as this investigative journalist of the highest moral standing. he basically does the stuff we are going to do it as well!- going to do it as well! again, i m transparent going to do it as well! again, i m transparent about what l going to do it as well! again, i m transparent about what i | i m transparent about what i do. i have never misled the audience about how i do it and i m also open about my standards and when i do it and have to have a strong hypothesis based on open sourced data, publicly available data, that there is a government crime that would otherwise remain uninvestigated unless he crossed the boundary and getting government data that would never share it with law enforcement. it s a gap in the legal system i m trying to bridge in this way. it was contested in court in germany when a german court looked at my data in the case of the assassination of an asylum seeker in germany in 2019 and the court said, considered whether
there is an overriding public interest when you talk about government mandated legislation. we talk about government mandated assassinations.- government mandated assassinations. ., ., ., assassinations. how far do you believe the assassinations. how far do you believe the overriding - assassinations. how far do you believe the overriding interest| believe the overriding interest will lay and allow you to take. for example, would you and your team undertake hacking yourselves? team undertake hacking ourselves? t, t, yourselves? no. again, there would be yourselves? no. again, there would be the yourselves? no. again, there would be the exceptional - yourselves? no. again, there| would be the exceptional case when the hack would be on a fake identity email account when this person does not exist, it s a spy. this maybe sort of a borderline case but we would never actively start hacking any personal email acts accounts. hacking any personal email acts accounts- accounts.
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