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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20191111 11:43:00

i get that. i thought it was fun. i this is nikki haley being careful, trying to have it both ways and making bureaucratic infighting, again, sound much worse than it is. i m just curious, jeremy bash, what your thoughts are. i m not saying donald trump should go to russia. i think i think, though, at some point the united states needs to recognize in a very public way the remarkable sacrifice the russian people made in the defeat of hitler, the along with all of our other allies. but i m just wondering whether donald trump can actually be that president because of everything that s preceded it. and the fact that there are a lot of people in america who believe that donald trump is either an agent of russia or at least a useful idiot. so let him lay a wreath at the world war ii memorial on the national mall. he doesn t have to go be putin s prop in a mayday parade which is clearly just an effort by putin

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20191111 11:14:00

continent so he can make an informed decision goes against trump, then guilty as charged. haley praised him in a tweet yesterday, of course, promoting her new book. jeremy bash, nickki haley is no dumb. but she s not playing a game here sfwlr it here. it s staggering. we ve heard this from the administration time and time again, people have ignored the president s orders because they were illegal. the president has ordered cabinet members to actually execute orders that are illegal. there are other times that nikki haley is right, there are times that tillerson, kelly, mattis pushed back on what donald trump was trying to do because people

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20191111 11:23:00

the president of the united states? did she go right after tillerson and kelly said something to her some because if she didn t, and she thought this was disloyal, then she, too, was being disloyal. she heard a conspiracy, in her mind, against the president. did she act on it? of course the president will lie to me and say she came to me several times. no, that would have made the news. jonathan lemire, i ll ask you in closing, was there one time, one time that you ever heard of nikki haley running to the president of the united states stepping up. and complaining in realtime that general kelly or rex tillerson or general mattis were being insubordinate to the president of the united states? not according to the reporting that we ve seen so far that we ve heard, no. she remembered complaining about larry kudlow and that incident early on in the administration when she felt like she was being kept out of the loop on

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20191111 11:41:00

inviting p inviting putin. so you have these dueling visits in may. let s think about what the world will look like. you could have a democratic primary that s continuing to go on. the president s going to be we have no idea what s going to happen in iran, north korea. the pageantry of the trump administration they re always thinking another step ahead on how they can dominate news cycles. it s going to be fascinating. at this point i want to take back by morning chitchat conversation. permission to clarify? on all these books, when we hear something that s like going to be so devastating, so damning about the trump administration, no one ever really owns it, right? we thought mattis would come out and tell us everything. but mattis was pretty mild in his. and i felt the same thing about nikkei haley nikkei nikki haley s book. none of us have the full book

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20191111 11:18:00

you, you should fire him. if she went to him and said, they went and talked about the 25th amendment, we d be talking about that. this is her positioning herself for 20, 24. let s skip ahead. let s not do 2020, we can think in four-year cycles. what s interesting about nikki haley is she always finds a way continue to certify herself in the news cycle but preserve both sides of it. she can still claim to be, well, i was against the president but i privately counseled him on whatever subject comes out of fashion in 2024. and right now she s sticking close to him. i think the pence stuff is interesting, but until someone says that from the inside and it s not anonymous, i think a lot of this is morning chitchat. but can we do klopp, let s go back to that? jurgen klopp versus nick saban, give them a basketball team, who

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