do that and the iraqi forces are moving to the center of ramadi, but are they going to be able to hold it? will isis completely disappear? doubtful. if the iraqis can bring in the sunni holding force that the u.s. has trained, they will be able to the hold on to parts of the city, but there is a sense that the isis fighters who are left there may not all just disappear, you know, into the dese desert. they are going to be staging guerrilla attacks, and terrorist attacks, and try to continue to make it very difficult. so this is going to be aing is nif can t security challenge, but make no mistake, it is a huge strategic victory for the iraqi forces to finally prove that they can get back a significant piece of territory, and it is a political victoryer for the u.s. administration for the white house that has been trying desperately to prove that the strategy of training the iraqis really can work. barbara, you are talking about the strategy, and bob, officials are i sag, first ra