investigation. join, once again, by ari melber, nicole reid, lawrence o donnell, you talk to pete aguilar about this in your show. i think, because the point you are making, is the secret service, you don t want to get this wrong. do you think the secret service lie to you? well, they weren t truthful. will you refer to lying to congress? it is a tool in trump s toolkit. roger stone deployed, at the time, michael cohen deployed it, before he saw the light, if you will. so, they left that very much open. i think their strategy, this is about ornato, and angle, and they think they were lied to. there is also a question, that they put together is an important movement to trump to the capitol at 1:55, and they aren t saying publicly where that was to protect, trump or pence. so, remember, on the fifth, mark sure has a mirroring meeting, and they penned the secret service agent. they say, pence is in danger tomorrow. it s a would-be goldberg seen
least it was to me. the investigator, saying, they had significant new evidence of people trying to obstruct the investigation. obstructing a lawful congressional investigation is a crime. and the comments from congressman schiff, and pete aguilar, even more importantly, we saw narrow down to trump white house officials, and also, people in the secret service, who, they believe, may have lied to the committee, or engaged in some kind of organized effort to prevent the committee from getting access to certain information about what happened on the sixth. that seems like, both, a big deal, and an unnerving prospect, the elements in the secret service are not being, overtly, accused here. but, the prospect being raised by the investigators, elements of the secret service committed crimes to try to derail this investigation. i m joined once again, by ari melber, nicole reid, lawrence o donnell, you talk to pete
from the secret service, and other sources. the secret service was monitoring this type of online activity, and was sharing, and receiving, the results of that effort. this stuff was a real surprise in today s hearing, at least it was to me. the investigator, saying, they had significant new evidence of people trying to obstruct the investigation. obstructing a lawful congressional investigation is a crime. and the comments from congressman schiff, and pete aguilar, even more importantly, we saw narrow down to trump white house officials, and also, people in the secret service, who, they believe, may have lied to the committee, or engaged in some kind of organized effort to prevent the committee from getting access to certain information about what happened on the sixth. that seems like, both, a big deal, and an unnerving prospect, that elements in the secret service are not being, overtly, accused here. but, the prospect being raised by the investigators, elements of the secret serv
different points, raised the prospect of other kinds of legal trouble for people who have lied to, or obstructed their investigation. we get to that in a minute. but, before we get to that threat from the committee, let s make sure we understand what is important about this big surprise news today, that they are going to subpoena the former president. i am joined by ari melber, nicole reid, lawrence o donnell. obviously, i would not have put it on my bingo card if i had to pick surprise action today, that it would be a subpoena for trump. i think i, like most, people thought that this was too late in the game for them to try. i thought they would have to go to a criminal referral. instead, they announced the subpoena, and did so with lots of reference to other legal factors here. what did you make of it nicole? i think the committee has been driven, since the beginning, of a true investigative principle. the politics are clear. democracy is the issue of all voters, and especially ind
are they telling us that, today, in this public hearing, in explaining the subpoena to trump, just because, legally, they will also have to make that case in court to a federal judge soon? when it comes time to try to enforce that subpoena, and compel trump to testify. the legal battle over the effort to compel trump s testimony begins, basically, today. that battle is, affective, lee joined already, today, with the vote from the committee that they re going to send him a subpoena. we will see how that works out. the investigators, today, a three different points, raised the prospect of other kinds of legal trouble for people who have lied to, or obstructed their investigation. we get to that in a minute. but, before we get to that threat from the committee, let s make sure we understand what is important about this big surprise news today, that they are going to subpoena the former president. i am joined by ari melber, nicole reid, lawrence o donnell. obviously, i would not have put i