now to ccontain russian power i eastern europe like the ball tick states and poland and helping the ukrainians defend off putin and it belies the fact that in the united states public opinion now is very strongly supportive of nato. republicans and democrats in congress very strong. i think when president trump leaves the oval office, whenever that is, when he s defeated i hope in 2020, any possible successor and you know i hope that s going to be vice president biden, is going to return the united states to a leadership role in nato. this is macron trying to build up the momentum for the european union, essentially to bypass nato. ambassador burns, thank you so much for being with us this morning. thanks so much. thank you. we have a programming note, former vice president joe biden takes questions from voters in a cnn town hall live from iowa tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. on this veterans day the army is considering new rules for arlington national cemetery.
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interests ahead of what many people think is our national interests, the same thing may be happening on ukraine, of course, where he asked the ukrainian president essentially to investigate joe biden and interfere in our election, the president puts his presidential, political interests over the national interests. we have real interests in the middle east. the president has to act on behalf of those interests and of all americans. i don t think he s standing up to it right now. ambassador nicolas burns, nice to be with us this morning. thanks, jim, thank you. the murder trial starts today for a former police officer who shot a man sitting in his own apartment. we are live from dallas next. behr presents: tough as walls. that s some great paint. that s some great paint. behr ultra, ranked #1 in customer satisfaction with interior paints. great paint, new low price. starting at $29.98. exclusively at the home depot.
former under secretary of state for political affairs, nicolas burns. good to see both of you. richard, let me start with you, we re hearing a lot of rhetoric from russia but how much are we really expecting to happen here? well, the situation is still ongoing. just a short while ago you mentioned 130 russian diplomats expelled worldwide. the number is actually closer to 150. nato expelling seven today. other countries seeming to join this bandwagon which is moving and continues to expand. there are now more than two dozen countries or entities that have taken actions against russia. this is a very significant move. it is a move directly against the russian ministry of foreign affairs, against russia s ability not only to conduct diplomatic actions but to gather intelligence. it is a significant move. russia saying that this is not a big deal, that it s blackmail from the united states, pressuring the world community,
bullying the world community, but it was perhaps a larger response or a stronger response against russia than russia may have anticipated after the poisoning in this country of a former russian spy and his daughter. ambassador burns, as you heard the ambassador and sergey lavrov threatening the united states, threatening the countries, what kind of retaliation do you expect? i think you have to fully expect putin, a kgb person after all, will hit back and we will see a series of european and canadian and american diplomats expelled from russia. we expected that. i think the trump administration was right to agree to this. we had to respond to this. it was really the french president, emmanuel macron, the german chancellor and british prime minister who led this and said this is the first use of a nerve agent since world war ii. there had to be a big response. it s the largest expulsion ever. and i think the hope is by the