we have nick akckerman and paul butler here. nick, have you seen this happen before? it s never happened before. presidents have gone up to congress to speak to senators, to speak to the house, but to testify before a hearing, that s just never happened before. would there be something behind closed doors, some sort of deposition, as kacey was just alluding to? as long as it s not under oath. no attorney would let a president go in there and swear to the truth and then answer questions. why not? because they would be concerned about what he might say. he s president of the united states. they re concerned about him testifying under oath? who a former director of the fbi is called a liar, who is not fit to be in the same room with. you have to keep him out of this perjury trap which means don t let him say anything, putting
seriously. i think we should take the candidates statements seriously. now you have the president as the president, and sean spicer even confirmed that the president s tweets are official statements of the president. all of these indicate that he has a discriminatory intent or let me just downgrade from that. just to a reasonable observer looking at this travel ban, the logical conclusion is that this is meant to discriminate against a religion and discriminate against an entire class of people. hawaii attorney general doug chen, thank you so much for calling in. i appreciate it, sir. thanks, katy. nick. what s your reaction? my reaction is this is going to go to the supreme court and they re going to throw it out on one of two grounds. one, the administration initially said they needed 90 to 120 days to have this travel ban in place in order to put in