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liberal democracy when you talk about what this will all mean for populists, um. nicholas farrell in the spectator writes that, the war puts the raison d etre of most european right wing populists, the defence of the nation state and national sovereignty back at the top of the political agenda, exposes the dishonesty of automatically branding such parties as anti immigrant or anti refugee. poland, of course, governed by the nationalist law and justice party, has taken in 1.9 million ukrainian refugees, more than the rest of the world put together. i mean, it does some would argue vindicate and presage a rise in nationalism as a result of what we re seeing. would you accept that? uh, so, first of all, nationalism can be a good thing or it can be a bad thing. we ve seen the bad effects in russian nationalism because their national identity is somehow inseparably connected to dominating all of their weaker neighbours.
seen since the cold war. you re saying it s a good thing, but part of the end of history idea was that force would no longer be appropriate or needed and this has shown how wrong that was. well, yes, that s. .. just to be fair, i never said that history was somehow this automatic mechanism that went on despite the actions of, you know, individuals, we still have human agency and i think it s pretty clear that if people don t believe in liberal democracy, if they don t fight for it, if they don t constantly struggle for it, it s not going to happen. and that s, i think, a useful reminder to everybody. ok, so germany spending 2% of gdp on defence is a good thing. it s a good thing, definitely. ..because it s defending liberal democracy. when you talk about what this will all mean for populists, um. nicholas farrell in the spectator writes that, the war puts the raison d etre of most european right wing
but part of the end of history idea was that force would no longer be appropriate or needed and this has shown how wrong that was. well, yes, that s. .. just to be fair, i never said that history was somehow this automatic mechanism that went on despite the actions of, you know, individuals, we still have human agency and i think it s pretty clear that if people don t believe in liberal democracy, if they don t fight for it, if they don t constantly struggle for it, it s not going to happen. and that s, i think, a useful reminder to everybody. ok, so germany spending 2% of gdp on defence is a good thing. it s a good thing, definitely. ..because it s defending liberal democracy when you talk about what this will all mean for populists, um. nicholas farrell in the spectator writes that, the war puts the raison d etre of most european right wing populists, the defence
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