investigator, conduct and many, many illegals, that used to work for pan aloma, and many before his conviction, as you say. do believe he conduct did illegal acts on behalf the the news of the world ? i don t know that. what is your belief? i don t know. you don t know what he did? i don t know what he did. i find that incredible as chief executive of the company you don t know. in may be incredible, it s rehiring by the world i investigations can take pride or aloma. did you have any contact with whitmore? yes. he was one of the private detect is, as i said you formed i d like to know what you did. but they do know what you did with it. in the main, my use of investigators while i was editor at the news of the world was in pursuit, in the main as you know, for the addresses and where god of peter using as investigator myself. i respect that the news of the world also use private investigators. you are aware that steve whittingdale would do some