we can to take out of as we need. so basically makes people are getting everything that they are entitled to and that they are getting all of the help they can possibly get and then the next thing to do is to join the campaigns for living wages and put an increase in benefits in line with the cost of living because this is something i ve been talking about for decades now and the only thing that s improving is statistics are getting bigger and the number of people that are going hungry is bigger and it s time for a change. aha, bigger and it s time for a change. a pleasure to speak to you despite the rather grim subject and i hope that thanks to your campaigning and that of others people will have to deal with what you dealt with a decade ago, nibbling on stock cues and wrecking formula milk.- ago, nibbling on stock cues and wrecking formula milk. grim. and i am not putting wrecking formula milk. grim. and i am not putting that wrecking formula milk. grim. and i am not putting that