democracy, likely concluding in a criminal trial. okay. but trump is changing his tune on that, too, telling the new york times quote, i don t want to hurt the clintons. i really don t. it s just not something that i feel very strongly about. and then there s climate change. back in march, trump told the washington post quote, i m not a great believer in man-made climate change but yesterday, he told the times quote, i think there is some connectivity, something. let s talk about that and more. ross douthat from the new york times, errol louis for new york one news and julian selazer from new york university. welcome to all of you. ross, you were present when donald trump was interviewed by the new york times. what went through your mind as trump ticked off these differing