to hardtalk. venezuela s strongman. welcome to hardtalk to hardtalk. thank you very much, stephen, to hardtalk. thank you very much, stephen, it to hardtalk. thank you very much, stephen, it is- to hardtalk. thank you very much, stephen, it is a - much, stephen, it is a pleasure. much, stephen, it is a pleasure- much, stephen, it is a pleasure. much, stephen, it is a leasure. , ., ., ., , ., pleasure. great to heavy on the show. pleasure. great to heavy on the show for pleasure. great to heavy on the show. for years pleasure. great to heavy on the show. for years you pleasure. great to heavy on the show. for years you have - show. for years you have participating in democracy in venezuela under nicolas maduro s rule, is a grave mistake because it ends up legitimising nicolas maduro. outcome you have now decided to your hat in the ring and seek the nomination from the opposition, to fight the next year s presidential elections? for years venezuela s people have been
believe the primary process will be a unique opportunity to have that leadership legitimised so we can go into a new negotiation, in which we will be in a relative position stronger relative position in order to have true negotiations with the regime. you order to have true negotiations with the regime. with the regime. you claim to seak with the regime. you claim to speak with with the regime. you claim to speak with all with the regime. you claim to speak with all venezuelans i with the regime. you claim to l speak with all venezuelans but let us remember your background stopping you come from an elite family, yourfather one ran one of the biggest steel companies in venezuela before the socialist revolution. you are educated partly in the united states and have travelled all over the world. most of venezuelans right now are experiencing profound poverty, suffering real hungry a quarter of the population has fled from venezuela. do you think you really understand ordinary vene
every single resource, and have our country totally in debt, debts they cannot pay, because no one is going to invest in a country that is lost, lost in every single index of rule of law, in the world. they have right now huge problems, they have arms, certainly but their support of the regime on the basis and middle ranks of the armed forces and police is melting down because people in the military and in other groups, do have family, sisters, mothers, children that are also starving. over 9 million people in venezuela are under starvation right now. the regime is not the same, the world understands nicolas maduro is toxic. world understands nicolas maduro is toxic. how credible are ou maduro is toxic. how credible are you as maduro is toxic. how credible are you as the maduro is toxic. how credible are you as the woman - maduro is toxic. how credible are you as the woman to - maduro is toxic. how credible l are you as the woman to topple nicolas maduro when actually you have bee
latin america but the whole thing ran out of steam. guido is now politically finished and it embarrassed the entire venezuelan opposition because it made you look incoherent. would you acknowledge that? let us say we have had several set backs that is true, you have to understand we are facing a criminal regime that is willing to do anything, to persecute, to do anything, to persecute, to blackmail, to go against families, and that is one of the reasons ucp will use to trust, in different sectors, not only politicians, but somehow, decide to abandon the fight. and it is type. i do not want tojudge anyone. fight. and it is type. i do not want to judge anyone. but that is white venezuelan people have in the last month somewhat, let s say, quieter, more calm, with a step back, but suddenly, with a step back, but suddenly, with the whole idea of the
through giving back hope, to our country, that we do have possibility, a way pave out through a democratic and pacific process, and i am committed to that. and we will go all the way regardless of what the regime does to me and all the people. we what the regime does to me and all the people- all the people. we will get to the international all the people. we will get to the international community | all the people. we will get to . the international community and what you want to see from them and just a minute. another question about the internal politics of venezuelan. you have always been one of the most outspoken, one of the most radical, militant representatives of the opposition, that you have opposed dialogue with majuro, you want to see socialism completely dismantled, that has always been your position. there are others who have a different position. there are opposition leaders who agreed to go into a dialogue, negotiating process with nicholas majuro s people in mexico a