add. this is also shaped by my experience at cyber command where i defend networks. one of the things we find in that role, many network and system operators do not truly understand their own structures and systems. one of the things that s part of this is how do we help those local, federal, state entities understand their network structure and what its vulnerabilities and harness the information that the intelligence structure are providing them. how do we work our way through this process? i think that s one of the areas that there has been a lot of discussion whether we re doing better. this is one of the areas i think we are doing better. we together at the f.b.i. together with dhs, recently for example scheduled meetings with various state election officials. normally the barrier would be classification concerns whether somebody had clearances. we were able to put together briefings appropriately
i think it was 700 in july alone in iraq than we ve seen in a very long time. plus, they have affiliates in nigeria. in mali, they took over until the french went in. this is an organization that is decentralized and has a network structure that may be more powerful and dangerous. that s what peter king, the chairman of the house homeland security subcommittee on intelligence and counterterrorism says he makes the same point. yeah, and these points aren t necessarily in contradiction with each other. the fact that it s a more networked organization doesn t actually make it more dangerous. i mean, it means that we ve put a lot of pressure on these groups. they find it hard to organize together. if they had a safe haven, we attack them with drones. let s say the invasion of normandy wasn t conducted by a decentralized network. it was conducted by the u.s. military. a highly organized organization. so the fact that al qaeda has
we ll hear that former agent from last night s 60 minutes. we made some am died terrorists al qaeda terrorists with american bloods on their hands uncomfortable for a few days but we did the right thing for the right reason. amount right reason was to protect the homeland and to protect american lives. shepard: his name is jose rodriguez. he is the former head of the cia clandestine services. as he puts it, the guys who do the dirty work. he even admits he he did, indeed, okay the destruction of audio and video evidence of the waterboarding. he says did he it in order to prevent al qaeda from attacking the interrogators. laura ingle is live in our newsroom in new york city. laura. jose rodriguez and other supporters of the agency say at lease auto% of the cia s knowledge of al qaeda s operative and the network structure came from the enhanced interrogation program right after 9/11.
would say where i defend networks is one thing we generally find in that role many network and system operators not truly understand their systems and structures and one of the things i think is part of this is how do we help those local, federal, state entities truly understand their network structure, what its potential vulnerabilities and harness the information that the intelligence structure and other elements providing them? it s part of working through the process. director wray. senator, i think this is one of the areas that s been a lot of discussion of doing better and this is one of the aerl yea areas i think we are doing. we recently scheduled meetings with various state election officials and normally the barrier is classification concerns, whether somebody had clearances. we were able to put together briefings appropriately tailored and with nondisclosure