balances ever. of course, mr. chairman, you know you can t start paying down the $18 trillion of debt that we have with another $100 trillion on the other way until you first come to balance. we do that in a responsible hopb nest way. we do it in a responsible logical ten year window. dana: i was following all of that. that was in the obama administration. this budget the president is putting forward also doesn t balance. how have the economics changed your viewpoint on supporting this type of budget? well, hey, i think that s a great segment, a great question. here s the big difference. with the president s budget request is doing here is going after the real drivers of our debt. that s the mandatory spending. he s doing it in a very humane way. the obama budget that i was talking about before never touched medicare, snap. excuse me, medicade, tan and snap, other welfare programs. this one does. $1.7 trillion worth in the first ten years alone. that s a trade i ll take every