so understand i want him to be part of this conversation. you are a white evan gel i cal christian catholic. but we want you to be part of the conversation and your voice is necessary. those people were bankers and i think the neo-nazi fassists, they re real people. but that is a very small piece of the population that got a tremendous amount of head lines. for whatever reason we can argue. one the things you said it is important to understand who washington was. it s important to understand who robert e. lee was. it s important to understand how we are where we are today. i ve been to many countries around the world where you don t have racial justice and no mechanism to be able to move in that direction. there are many problems today: i acknowledge those. the i love this conversation. i think its agreat.