so, you would think you would have some negotiating leverage within the caucus itself using other caucus numbers to get that pressure to bare minimum 20. it s because something that i learned a very early in my tenure at the rnc with the emergence of the tea party. it s that for them and for a lot of the remnants of what is left inside the freedom caucus, jim jordan was part of that original class, uhm it s a two-pronged approach. one is respect, right? because they don t ever feel that they have been respected in the process by the process. and to, leverage. they ve never had elaborate going into going into these efforts as we have seen the two times before with boehner and ryan. now they ve got both. they have gotten the attention of the establishment, right? [laughter] they both respect for the base, right? there are base voters out there
what that pizza represents. now, you know, is he having a conversation with senior leadership? yes. is he meeting with key allies, absolutely. is he talking with those 20 members who are against him? he s trying his best but the question boils down to this, what more can you offer that you haven t already offered that they re going to be willing to accept that will not lose you part of the 203 votes you already have because that s the other side of this equation. you have 203 votes so you will think you would have some negotiating leverage within the caucus itself using other caucus members to bring that pressure to bear on the 20, but it speaks to something that i learned very early in my tenure at the rnc with the emergence of the tea party. for them and for a lot of the remnant, what s left inside the freedom caucus, jim jordan was part of that original class, is
the debt ceiling. you suggest doing it during the lame duck session, a political issue because some republicans are threatening to use that as negotiating leverage. tell us what the dangers are here if they don t get that limit raised? if they don t get that limit raised, a number of very bad things happen. one is that it s probably unconstitutional to default on our debt. i don t know what you do about that. beyond that, it ruins the reputation of the united states in that we are now considered the safest of safe borrowers to lend money to. that s why we re part of the world s reserve currency, why uncle sam enjoys such low interest rates that the government has to pay on treasury bonds and such. so you can see interest rates go up in the future. and in the near term you could cause a global financial crisis. oh, just that. yeah, i know because basically every other asset on earth, it s perceived riskiness.
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