russian prison, so there are quite strict rules there. he can meet his lawyers, but he talks to them from behind the glass, and, well, during this particular case on this day, his lawyers were banned from using phones or laptops or even an recorder is to record the case. so it is, this case, this trial is set to be open and transparent, but obviously it is not, even journalists where prohibited to come nearer navalny. they were placed in some other room with the tv screen and a broadcast on it. so no one, i mean no listeners, just ordinary