conflicted about starting to build a life, whether it s here in poland, other eu countries, america, 100,000 visa announcement came from the president, as well. how do you juggle those two things? you want to be close to home, at the same time, you need to find a way to find a new home while your home is being invaded. and that is a feeling that we heard from olena, a woman we met, nbc actually first talked to across the border in lviv, where my colleague kyle perry is, and we met her as she crossed the border here into poland. and she told me, she feels immense guilt for being here, for being safe, while so many others in her home country are not and she wondered what it would be like to go back home, what her home would look like. and her biggest fear, michael, is that ukraine would be occupied, would be ruled by putin. she said she would not go back to a ukraine that was under
temporarily in this city could be sort of spurred on by these air strikes to make their way to poland. it could cause, as they said, sort of a second wave of refugees. that is certainly a concern here on the ground, michael. kyle perry, live in ukraine for us. thank you so much. joining us now from krakow, poland, nbc s dasha burns. reporter: michael, the president talked about the long haul, talked about this being more than days, more than months, likely, that the world and poland and, of course, ukraine, will be going through all of this and the folks that we re talking to here, the ukrainian refugees, are conflicted about what to do with themselves, because on the one hand, they need to provide some sort of normalcy for their children, get kids in school, try to live life. at the same time, people are
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