daily. the house of representatives on friday plans to vote on its version, the tenth time since 2011. joining me is the director of programs from the natural resoerz defense council, dale burke. how are you? fine thanks for having me. first we have the oil crash, which is on people s mind probably more son than this project. is it less necessary if oil is cheaper? well, certainly lower oil prices are not good for the keystone investors, that s a very expensive oil to extract from tarsands but oil prices are volatile which is one of the many reasons we need to get ourselves off of oil, break the mo not any and bring other soreses likes electric vehicles. if people aren t energy experts like you, and they just say tarsands oil, that sounds sort of bad, is that a good way to think about it, or more complicated?