about us making nato stronger and everyone knows perfectly that we will be the most powerful member on the eastern flank. we have proven that already in terms of nato standards, having a powerful army and the resilience of our people. we have proven all of that and notjust people. we have proven all of that and not just with people. we have proven all of that and notjust with blah, blah, blah, not with words but with blood. but if we are offered safety guarantees instead of nato, this is not fair. that is what i m saying. this is not an alternative and will never be an alternative for us. otherwise by finland, why sweden? why were they quickly excepted into nato after they started talking aboutjoining nato? why do i react to nato with that? what i am saying is if you do not see us in nato you willjust have to say it and admit it and then ukraine and the population of ukraine and the population of ukraine will understand that. we will have to live differently. but even when we
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speaking with a military expert saying the new phase of this war was going to be a war of artillery. that requires some very specific, heavy armaments. is that something that ukraine has already gotten? does it need more of that? we are just starting to receive some artillery of nato standards, but it s really not enough to protect our cities from russian bombs. we have not received important air defense systems, midlevel and long-range air defense systems. and we have not received fighter jets. they can t unblocked besieged cities of mariupol and kherson without this equipment. he can cannot get russia out of our occupied cities with tanks because we have not received nato tanks. honestly, jose, it s quite expensive equipment. and i m very much expecting what will be in the supplement
border. what s been the reaction to the flurry of diplomacy that doesn t seem to have borne fruit so far? reporter: not borne any fruit, as you were saying in your introduction there has been a flurry of international organizations. above all, foreign nations withdrawing or downsizing their size of their embassies in kyiv, moving their embassies from kyiv to laviv in the far west close to the polish border. in the case of the united states and britain also announcing that they re both going to be withdrawing the training teams that have been working alongside the ukrainian armed forces to try to bring them up to nato standards, also to teach them how to use the recently supplied javelin and shoulder-launched anti-armor weapons. there s 160 americans from the national guard being withdrawn, about 100 britons being withdrawn over this weekend.
and that is to make sure that there are no nato boot footprints on the ground should the russians invade, because of course that would greatly complicate matters in terms of how nato were to react. but here on the ground just 30 miles from the russian border, kim, we know from satellite imagery, from reports from the united states, and indeed from press releases from the russian armed forces, that there is a massive force gathering just across the border to the north here some 40 or 50 miles in land beyond the border, potentially threatening to overrun this city of 1.5 million people, which is sid 75% russian-speaking. there may have been an assumption in the kremlin they might receive positive reception having russian tongue. having been here talking to people on the ground, there is no love lost for the ambitions of the kremlin. there is a great deal of sense