the quad as they re called are discussing how best to address china s growing power in the indo pacific region. they are also considering joint responses to russia over the war in ukraine. now on bbc news, hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. vladimir putin s ukraine invasion has presented nato with its greatest challenge in a generation. at nato hq, they claim support for ukraine has unified and reinvigorated the alliance to the point where sweden and finland urgently want tojoin. in kyiv, the message is different. nato, they say, has done little or nothing to help. my guest is nato secretary general jens stoltenberg. are internal divisions undermining nato s ukraine response? secretary general jens stoltenberg, at nato headquarters in brussels, welcome to hardtalk. thank you so much for having me, stephen. it s a pleasure to have you on the show. i ve got to begin with the stinging comments just a couple of days ago from ukraine s foreign minister, dmytro
nato, they say, has done little or nothing to help. my guest is nato secretary generaljens stoltenberg. are internal divisions undermining nato s ukraine response? secretary generaljens stoltenberg, at nato headquarters in brussels, welcome to hardtalk. thank you so much for having me, stephen. it s a pleasure to have you on the show. i ve got to begin with the stinging comments just a couple of days ago from ukraine s foreign minister, dmytro kuleba, who said that nato had in effect done nothing to help ukraine. what s your response to that? so, first, i would like tojust say that i have great respect for the government, the political leadership, president zelensky, prime minister, kuleba and ukrainian people for what they are able to demonstrate, their courage and unity, standing up against the russian putin led invasion of ukraine. nato allies and nato have supported ukraine for many years. since 2014, tens of thousands of ukrainian troops have been trained and especially
President trump believes Michael Flynn should be able to tell his story to Congressional Committee is conducting investigations into russias interference in the president ial election. The american president ial election. The american president described the hearings as a witchhunt and in a briefing his spokesperson said the white house was not worried about what it might reveal. He believes Michael Flynn should testify a nd he believes Michael Flynn should testify and thinks he should go up there and do what he has to do to get the story out. With or without immunity . That is up to him and his lawyer to decide. I will not give anyone legal advice from the podium but the view of the president is he should testify. But the president gave legal advice from his twitter account. You said in the past the only reason to ask for immunity is that we have done something wrong. Go get it out there, the president says. Google just have to do and tell everyone what we have been saying for a long
dependent on the contributions from different individual allies for different missions, operations and activities we do in different ways, so nato allies and nato provide support for ukraine. of course, it s first and foremost the courage of the ukrainian forces that really makes the difference on the battleground, but i think everyone wants to see the equipment, the training, supplies getting from the united states and other nato allies is also of great importance. we ll get to the differing approaches taken within your membership to support in a moment, but i want your assessment of the battlefield. you are at nato ho, you ve got all sorts of intelligence analysts looking at what s unfolding, particularly in the east of ukraine day by day. what is your latest assessment of the balance on the battlefield? wars are always hard to predict and even though we have access to a lot of intelligence and we are monitoring and following developments on the battlefield very closely, i m very car
of course, it s first and foremost the courage of the ukrainian forces that really makes the difference on the battleground, but i think everyone wants to see the equipment, the training, supplies getting from the united states and other nato allies is also of great importance. we ll get to the differing approaches taken within your membership to support in a moment, but i want your assessment of the battlefield. you are at nato ho, you ve got all sorts of intelligence analysts looking at what s unfolding, particularly in the east of ukraine day by day. what is your latest assessment of the balance on the battlefield? wars are always hard to predict and even though we have access to a lot of intelligence and we are monitoring and following developments on the battlefield very