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george conway, conservative lawyer and contributor to the washington post. thank you both for being here. and i do want to start with you, jim. you know, there is there s a lot of national security analysis that says that the threat from the far right has morphed from proud boys, oath keepers, 3%ers that kind of thing, to this individual lone actor, like we saw in utah. is that what keeps you up at night? and when you took a look at this charging document, what were your thoughts? well, first, joy, the fbi did a good job staying on this guy since march. you know, taking it very seriously, bringing their team to bear this morning. what you look at on these threats and i looked those up with my agents before, busted one up against president-elect obama years ago by neo-nazis right here in tennessee, and they were going to kill him, try to kill him with rifles like this and shoot 88 black children in the school. back then, people didn t believe
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counterintelligence and national security analysis. also tim miller, writer at large for the bulwark as well as an msnbc political analyst. dave cohen joins us, he s been writing about mass shootings for years. his latest best seller parkland. and michigan democratic state senator mallory mcdaniel is here. she s well-known for fighting back for republican attempts to marginalize the lgbtq community. i want to start with you, dave. there are parts of the story that are all new, and horrors, in people s lives that have ruined anew, in a mass shooting in a place where people are feeling themselves. but there are patterns now. they re such well-worn occurrences like the ar-15 style rifle. the shooter wearing body armor,
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