bannon wants to be very aggressive when it comes to tariffs and a lot of this again comes back to china. the other area that s quite interesting today, having a meeting about afghanistan at camp david. bannon is not in the room. he s been advocating quite a radical approach there. him and eric prince have been advocating a private army sort of paramilitary operations in afghanistan and withdrawing american troops. that idea didn t go anywhere internally. he s been at war on many, many fronts and this was inevitable. stand by for me if you can, jonathan. peter baker, new york times chief white house correspondent joins me now on the phone. thank for your time. it was that interview one of the inviews i should note this week that got a lot of attention in the new york times where steve bannon said among other things
who said he had been talking with the president about a change. we ll need to see more of the time line in this. it is fair to say steve bannon was well aware there was a limited shelf life left on his time in the white house and while he had been rumored to be out at other times as well, that there would be a limit to that, he is also been someone that has been described as not being in step with jared kushner and ivanka trump who are first among equals for any advisers to the president. they too are not part of the national security meeting because they typically attend any meeting they so choose and this is a part of national security afghanistan meeting. so i think if we look at this and step back, bannon knew his time was limited. he survived trouble spots before. he had tried to shape the agenda of the president. when we look back over time
them out but expressing sharp differences when it comes to things like foreign policy, north korea, afghanistan. this is a big sea change for this administration, which has had a rocky couple of weeks. you mentioned bannon s position on foreign policy. all of this happening as president trump heads to camp david here for a big meeting with his national security council. steve bannon not going to be in that meeting of course. gabe sherman still with me on the phone. gabe sherman vanity fair, msnbc, gave the one who booked a few moments ago about mr. bannon s return to breitbart. gabe, what do we think breitbart is going to become now? well, the most important thing to look at is that they are focused on the issue not the man. only to advance this populist nationalist agenda, which is tough on trade, very hard line on immigration and issues like
his time here at bedminister is now stretching into it s second week. so these are two former very close allies that have not been in close contact in recent weeks and of course today we saw that come to the forefront when president trump was meeting with his national security team. at camp david, talking about the way forward in afghanistan and steve bannon was not at the table. i pressed this source on what this could mean for the president s relationship to his base, of course, steve bannon widely viewed as the touch stone to the president s base. kristen welker in new jersey, thank you, president trump now at camp david. we got this video in a short