She suggested she will, but we can t be certain till she does. if he does, we don t know what charges phil see, and when those charges might come. she said eminent, but she s also clarified she means legally imminent, not imminent in terms of time. in terms of supporters, that could be any moment. but now enough in the special grand jury that the panel has recommended charges against multiple people, including, in her words, familiar names. people who wouldn t be shocked to hear their names. i don t know if that means giuliani, donald trump, whoever, but we know there are names that folks are listening and watching the show will be very well aware of. eugene, legally imminent forces reporter imminent reminds me why he decided not to become a reporter and instead to go into journalism that that sense of what a timeline looks like, what it means to do things in a speedy manner. the georgia case is just one of the venues where leaders are looking for accountability, right? that s why
So, right now, what this sends to democrats and why both of these elections really are telling democrats is that keeping attention, keep doing what you re doing, so far there is not the huge backlash just like there wasn t a huge backlash against him in the last year. i know that this is a close race with the biggest of consequences. we re going to continue to follow it on the show and check in with you. we ve seen a lot of you. nathan, thank you much for joining. as eugene, you re sticking with me, coming up will they or won t they? we dig into the investigation into trump. the revelations and what it could mean for the dropping indictments. plus, we ll talk to the kentucky lawmaker facing an uphill battle to protect and expand reproductive rights in her state as we await the fate of abortion medication nationwide. later, the push for gun safety reform in the wake of the msu shooting. we ll hear from an msu students who is also a student in newtown during the sandy hook massacre. fi
Mention tammy baldwin, our great democratic senator is up for reelection. that would be a huge fight. and the gerrymandered mask to give republicans two house seats that they shouldn t have, meaning control of the house, the senate, and the white house are all on the line. the last thing i will say on, this worst-case scenario, wisconsin came within one vote on our state supreme court of overturning the 2020 election. the closest any state in the country came because of the radicalism on our state supreme court. we had just defeated dan kelly, the current conservative candidate in the spring of 2020. that s why he wasn t on the court to cast what would ve been the tie breaking vote for the gop. we cannot let him back on the supreme court before 2024. nathan, before i let you go, i want to say that you are the reason for the four of us are sitting here. you had a tweet that tied for me what s happening in wisconsin to what happened in virginia. because there is so much going, on it wa
2024. right-wing candidate dan kelly was part of wisconsin s fake electors plot. he will face off against a left leaning judge janet per se what s per se when it s as wisconsin voters know what s on the line. everywhere we go the turnout that we get from people around the state wanting to talk about this election, wanting to share how concerned they are about the state of wisconsin going forward, how important this racist to them. i have people coming up to me in tears saying we are praying that you win this race. we are praying that we get control of the supreme court back. it s not just wisconsin we have our eye on. in virginia, democrats are sending these states first black woman to congress. jennifer mcclelland swept a special election for the u.s. house nearly 75% of the vote. joining me to discuss both of these key races, ben winkler, chair of the wisconsin democratic party. political reporter nathan mcdermott, and i must nbc
Contributor eugene daniels, coauthor of playbook and white house reporter for politico. it s good to see you. all band, i will start with you since we re starting with wisconsin. the election is for a ten-year term on the state supreme court. ten years. an entire decade. talk to me about the major cases that are just around the corner. also the ones that are on the horizon. absolutely, thank you, alicia. this is a race that in some ways is as important as the governor s race last fall. the tipping point stayed in the electoral college. what happens in wisconsin to voiding, rights to s democracy has massive ripple effects starting with the 2024 presidential election. the case that wisconsinites have their eye on the most is a case that governor everson attorney general josh call broad to strike down our pre civil war era abortion ban. that is in the courts. right now it is almost certain to reach our state supreme court. whoever wins on april 4th will cast the tie breaking vote on whe