but just because a case is open doesn t necessarily mean to me that it s a backlog. it s an open case. now, what i believe the deputy director and i are looking towards is analyzing what s open to be able to come back and make some recommendations of some things that we need assistance on, such as that anonymous uncorroborated complaint where we ve never been able to get in to determine whether or not there is a violation and there s no exterior evidence of it. how long do we keep that case open? if we cannot corroborate that it exists and we don t have sufficient information [speaker not understood] under the law to get an inspection? so, we re probably going to come back with some recommendations to the director and to you about those types of things when we can at least when we finish our tally, i definitely am going to have some recommendations for the deputy director and the director on that. we are definitely looking at that to be able to get input from all of you and
so, we got some information about the backlog from the housing division and i wonder if you have a concept of how many open notices of violation are backlogged through code enforcement or the building. we have you know what i m saying? oftentimes when we do when we hear those backlog, notice of violation, second notice of violation are in code enforcement [speaker not understood] director s hearing. do you know what the number is? i don t have that figure. that would be helpful because we re trying to what we re trying to do is help with the system to get rid of the backlog both through housing and building. we have increased the number of inspectors, we add more inspector to the code enforcement division to work on the backlog. great. thank you. commissioner lee. back to my original question that i asked, rosemary, on these numbers, 195 first novs were issued from january to march. then 19 second novs were issued. does that mean 176 responses were
referral. but i also want i ve heard the term backlog of cases and i think there should be some clarification of this. to me a case that is in our backlog isn t merely an open code enforcement case because we may have taken all the actions and maybe completely up to date with every action we can take on that case short of making a referral. and that s not a backlog. that s just an open case and it may not be ripe for city attorney referral. so, there we d have to also look at the assessment of costs and those tools doing its job over a period of time making it more expensive for the property owner to have a property sitting out there where there aren t repair. and obviously we do more inspections. we put pressure on a property owner where we have that situation where it may not be perfect ripe for referral or where we may recommend a limited referral given the circumstance of the case. if their capacity or whatever, we may want to refer that. but just because a case is op
a lot of these cases that we have for open of notice of violation, there are plans that follow the planning [speaker not understood] still aren t approved yet. and there are permits that are issued with these to obtain compliance that aren t final yet. we keep the notice of violations open until we get full compliance before we abate them. i have a question. so, we got some information about the backlog from the housing division and i wonder if you have a concept of how many open notices of violation are backlogged through code enforcement or the building. we have you know what i m saying? oftentimes when we do when we hear those backlog, notice of violation, second notice of violation are in code enforcement [speaker not understood] director s hearing. do you know what the number is? i don t have that figure. that would be helpful because we re trying to what we re trying to do is help with the system to get rid of the backlog both through housing and b