that. but the question is, you know, for most people and you can certainly understand that it s the immediate moment. it s a challenge to buy gas to get to work, when it s a challenge to get baby formula, that is all happening in the moment right now. i must ask you about a recession. go on, please. yeah. look, you re right. gasoline is mostly about president putin s naked aggression. and if we want to not have these kinds of problems again, we re going to have to stand up firmly to that naked aggression. but do you see a recession in our future? that happens is the way the nato alliance has stood to that. i think we re likely to have a recession. i think we have overheated the economy and gotten some bad luck. when the pendulum swings too far
aggressive. they have become not pariahs on the international stage but aligned themselves with apariahs and their behavior has been contemptible. both internally and externally. so if joe biden is taking a tougher line than presidents has in the past, that is because the situation has changed considerably. absolutely. we ve also had the demonstration of naked aggression by russia. you had china just before the aggression took place sign a no limits agreement with russia. china has built itself up militarily. and so, yeah, i think the situation has changes. and i think the president threaded the needle exactly right. he s not changing the one china policy, not recognizing taiwan as a sovereign entity or causing a crisis or break fundamentals of u.s./china relations. this is a unilateral policy.
because everyone is afraid of war, but whether the world is responsible for this, i believe so, yes. what do you say to that, ambassador? i guess i would make two comments. one, this war, to my mind, the blame really goes on one person. that s vladimir putin who decided to launch this war as a war of choice, but i think what you re hearing from president zelenskyy is his frustration that the outside world is not doing more to support ukraine, which is the victim of naked aggression. i think he s looking for two things from the west, one is more arms. the west has supplied a lot, but there are more needs on the part of the ukraine military. and also his frustration that the sanctions haven t had a bigger impact and his concern that, for example, the russians are still able to sell a lot of oil and gas in international markets, and that s continue the flow of revenue to russia. i read into his comments, he s looking for the west now to do
we are especially dangerous to accident, incident, or as you discussed at the top of the show, a provocation that gives the russians justification for an intervention instead of what s looking like naked aggression against ukraine. do you think that s what they re waiting for at this point because there have been 100,000 troops and then that has been building since early december. do you think that is exactly what russia is waiting for to give them the justification for going in? it s a great question, pamela, and is certainly a factor. if it served up an incident or ukraine or one of our nations falls into it, there s justification to go. however, there s a side of this,
months, putin has unleashed a great pan on the people of ukraine, but the ukrainian people have known for 30 years of independence and have repeatedly shown that they will not tolerate anyone who tries to take their country back. this is a dangerous moment for all of europe, for freedom around the world. putin has committed assault on the very principles that uphold global peace. now the entire world sees clearly what putin and his kremlin allies are really all about. this was never about a genuine security concern on their part. it was always about naked aggression. putin s desire for empire by any means necessary. by bullying russia s neighbors through coercion and corruption. changing borders by force. ultimately by choosing a war without a cause.