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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:32:00

inequalities in our society with difficult situation. and when there is a drama such as the death of nahel, then things erupt. now there are three times. there has been a time for emotion and obviously to mourn the death of nehal. there is a time for calming things down and a time forjustice, and there is the time for more structural measures, which is coming along. would you describe what s been happening in france as pockets of problems? it sounds like you re minimising a problem which is actually much more substantial than that and really warrants a clear, long term strategy. and i put it to you that your government does not have that. no, i am not trying to minimise it. i m trying to be very factual. it is true that the images that you ve seen of tv have been in circumscribed area, but throughout the territory.

BBCNEWS Newsday June 4, 2024 22:29:15

BBCNEWS Newsday June 4, 2024 22:29:15
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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:44:00

people are coming. they haven t modified their trip. they know, and there are many tourists in paris and the rest of france now that in most of the country you are living a perfectly normal life. we have an issue with this area. we will address this issue. we will continue the work of the government. and this government is the first one who has actually seized the problem at its root, which is, as you rightly mentioned, education and integration. i don t know whether you have said at its roots. i just want to tell you very quickly a quote from sebastian roche, a french sociologist specialising in police practices, says there have been six times more fatal police shootings since the 2017 law than before, he says the law is the principal problem, so the solution must be to change it. ijust put to you again, i mean, there s a problem with this law. i would say something. perhaps there has been a rise in violence, perhaps there has been a rise in excess violence as well. i think, this time

BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 03:32:00

does the government have a clear strategy to deal with this latest crisis? yeah, very much so. i mean, as you know, this is not a french specificity. it happened here in the uk exactly a year before the olympic games as well. it happened in sweden. it happened in denmark. there are pockets of inequalities in our society with difficult situation. and when there is a drama such as the death of nahel, then things erupt. now there are three times. there has been a time for emotion and obviously to mourn the death of nehal. there is a time for calming things down and a time forjustice, and there is the time for more structural measures, which is coming along. would you describe what s been happening in france as pockets of problems? it sounds like you re

BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 03:45:00

than before, he says the law is the principal problem, so the solution must be to change it. ijust put to you again, i mean, there s a problem with this law. i would say something. perhaps there has been a rise in violence, perhaps there has been a rise in excess violence as well. i think, this time, when we look specifically at this time, there has been this traumatic event with nahel. but in the three days where 700 policemen and firemen were injured, some of them gravely in hospital, 3,000 arrested, there has not been another terrible incident. all this has left president macron and his government very preoccupied domestically. i mean, we saw him at the end ofjune leave an eu summit in brussels early. it was discussing ukraine. he cancelled a visit to germany, which would have been the first state visit by a french leader in 23 years. we saw the official visit by king charles to france would have been his first one as king also cancelled.

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