why is this administration so rattled by michael cohen? we had a new york times story from friday saying trump sees inquiry from cohen as greater threat than mutualer. it tells you what donald trump has to worry about, which is really his prepolitical career. they are right to be nervous that a judge saw the information on michael cohen and said yes there is enough here for a search warrant. a raid. this isn t really having a political effect. we have been talking about stormy daniels and michael cohen for several months. donald trump s polls have been doing up. the republican congressional ballot going up. generally the public is becoming inured to the public approximate. it tells you about what they are thinking in the white house. what does it say about the electorate or the way this is all covered, i guess, that
that it changes his mind all the time. the most important phrase, at least for now. carol lee, thank very much. let me bring in kimberly atkins, ruth marcus, and danielle pletka. all right, we are trying to deal with both mueller and syria here. just as the president is trying to deal with both mueller and syria. that s not easy. let s compartmentalize. and we know this president struggles with come partmentalizing. let s start with this, to me it s not a surprise that after the cohen raid the president changes his mine. not a surprise that he gets bent out of shape. i m out of here i am not going to talk with mutualer. the question is whether it was ever likely that he was going to take what seemed to me, and kim can speak to this the dangerous and unwise step of
against or mueller making this into a pardon-proof plea? that s exactly right. i have not in 40-some-odd years ever seen a cooperation agreement that includes anything but cooperating with the federal authorities. this is first time ever i ve seen a cooperation agreement that incorporates cooperating with local and state officials. if you look at the papadopoulos agreement, that isn t in there. right. which says to me that flynn is going to be testifying against donald trump, jared kushner, ivanka, and donald jr. any one or all of those people. right. because mutualer is trying to in mueller is trying to inoculate himself. in the state system donald trump has zero authority to pouredan ib. what you can t do is you can t have somebody kmarmd at the federal level with the crime
inabilities to pay back some loans most banks in the world have given up on donald trump. but boich bank hadn t. and it s one of the few western bank that also didn t give up on russia. we don t know that the dots connect but there are dots between deutsche bank arc german bank, and russia and donald trump. that s right. there were only a few banks in a would len to donald trump in the 90s. but there is dispute and litigation. they alleged he stiffed them on a huge loan yet they continued to do business with him after settling the suit. there is questions why. the yoerch arching question with mutualer and the special investigators is about deutsche bank having leverage over donald trump somehow. what this shows that mueller is looking into donald trump and his family s personal finances. who knows where that could go, money laundering, bank fraud, tax fraud.
appears to be taking with manafort? it looks very, very tough. some have said that s his job, that when you are under federal investigation and there is a prosecutor looking into, by the time they are looking into you it s generally pretty serious. it is, if in fact, especially if in fact they have give him a target letter or said to him in effect you are going to be indicted of then it s very rough because you have to cope on a different little. it s no longer strictly a voluntary let s help each other level. right. now you are on an adversarial level. that changes everything. it s possible that has happened. we have read that it has happened. it s possible also that mutualer is trying to send a signal to other people. this is what could happen to you. this is what could happen. it also changes things in terms of the lawyers you have to retain and the type of work they have to do. so if if you are in anned a ver sarial position everything has to be lawyered up. we know tha