there were some very fine people among the bigots, the racists, the homophobes, the xenophobes in charlottesville, where a woman lot her life fighting bigotry, i think all these things when combined would cause us to conclude that these are impeachable offenses. and if we want to get beyond talking about the race question, i think we can make it an action item. i plan to do so. okay. so, listen, you mentioned the separation of families. you mentioned the s-hole countries. you also point to the muslim travel ban. you just mentioned charlottesville. you talk about transgender people in the military. that s one of the reasons. i m just wondering how do these rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors, though? well, if you would go to the impeachment of andrew johnson in 1868, article 10 of those articles of impeachment dealt with a high misdemeanor. we too often confuse what the law really says with what we
out and saying we should just impeach him because we disagree with him, to hell with what the voters said that s not what he said. [ overlapping voices ] that is what he said. what he s saying is i don t like what he says. i don t like that characterization. he said impeach him for policies. no. he said impeach him because bigotry has been infused in his policies. so when you re talking about a muslim ban, you re talking about so we re just going to get rid of him. forget the voters. no, no, no. you re interrupting me. i m not going to wait. because you re lying on a member of congress, which i find very disrespectful. what i m telling you is i find you interrupting me disrespectful, but go ahead. unfortunately, i m not going to let you lie on one of my former bosses. here s the raelts of what s going on here. the reality is a transgender ban in the military is not just disrespectful or not just about not liking something. it is about bigotry you re maki
the president, as you mentioned, has shown intolerance, trying to pass trying to put forward a muslim travel ban, talking about both sides being good people in charlottesville. there is a cost to that. the cost is what we see part of what we see today, that there are people out there who are unstable that will be inspired by that and then take action. in this case, shoot people and kill people. the president today described undocumented immigration. once again, he has done it before, as an invasion. he said people are coming into the united states illegal immigrants in droves, he says. what s the impact of that type of rhetoric coming from the oval office? what it does is it creates an otherness towards people. in this case, immigrants, brown immigrants. it uses them real he is using them for fear mongering purposes, scapegoating to build his political career. that s what he has done since
case involving the muslim travel ban. the case went up through the courts and eventually the supreme court accelerated hearing the case. eventually, it ruled in president trump slavery there will be some lower court, some judge somewhere in the country who will try and solve this decoration. melissa: i don t want to run out of time before pointing out that there is another thing that the president has set a lot in the past. talking about president obama s overuse of executive action. let s listen, and i will get your reaction. he doesn t deal with people, he is a bad leader, and he can t get people into the room. twist their wrists, as the expression goes. get them to make a deal. now he has to use executive action. and this is a very dangerous thing that should be overridden easily by the supreme court. we are looking at a situation that should absolutely not pass in terms of constitutionality. melissa: your reaction real quick? a famous corpsman just said,
their job, they would look at their responsibility and they wouldn t push the issue to make him have to decide to use the national emergency. heather: interesting over the weekend, if you looked at responses on social media and the responses from pundints and the president lost in this, who has the upperhand in negotiation. the president willing to put country over party and negotiate, this is what negotiation is. absolutely, we have seen that over the last 2 years with the president and other border issues like so-called muslim travel ban, urging congress to act. dictators using the authority, he stayed within the margins of constitution, that s conservatism, that s conserving the rule of law and the legislature, he s consistently urged congress to act, they are