states we re giving 1.5 billion dollars we re having to borrow from the chinese to give to the muslim brotherhood when we re cutting services in the united states. i ll tell you where the money is going, it s creating a stable and strong egypt imperative in that part of the world. do you believe that the musl muslim brotherhood is a stable egypt. sean: do you think that s democracy? he was voted in sharia law all right. one at a one at a time. jay is next. go ahead. okay. sean: go ahead. mark, here is the problem, i don t believe, and i think most people that are engaged in this, and i ve got an office that deals with a lot of the situations in the the middle east that the muslim brotherhood government is going to be stable at all, if it was stable, it s stable as iran, an islamicist government which it is. mark, you re a smart guy. do you really believe that a government under morsi with attempts he s made to grab power and continues to, dismissing the military leadersh
by senior general. i m sure that as the months go on, many other people will come forward and say that this happened to them as well now that some women have spoken out. we ll wait and see on that. next is syria. the president granting amnesty to the people arrested for protesting. does that mean that all is forgiven? it s certainly a confusing at best statement made on the television. it was a decree announcement reported on state television that the syrian president signed a decree offering amnesty for those that committed crimes before may 30th, including the musl muslim brotherhood but then listed a change in punishments rather than the punishments being eliminated or removed al together so from a life sentence it goes to 20 years and many of these other announcements, it s
course as i know you v and it is a fascinating read. one of the things that strikes me is that we are talking about two guys, very young guys, 23 and 30 years of age respectively, and speak to their youth, a, and b, what are they accused of doing? well, in the case of wad ramadan alwan, he is now 30 years old, but he has been at the business of terrorism for more than 10 years. since he was a teenager. and in his case, he was involved directly in the manufacture and the placement of ieds designed specifically to kill u.s. troops on roadsides. he bragged recently that he had in fact handled more than 100 ieds himself during the period 2003 to 2006. and then he was arrested by iraqi authorities. he was finally released and in 2009, he came to the u.s. and has been living in kentucky. it is interesting that you used the word brag, because one thing that stuck out for me is the same alwan, 30 years of age and also talking about the types of ieds that he was using against troo
terrorists and there are not many people from the law enforcement community invited to participate and gave him data on this. joining me now, matt bar ret to. thanks for joining us. there s such an absence of fact in this discussion that we re trying everything to bring fact into it. who are american muslims? and what evidence is there that they have not participated with law enforcement. you have done a study. 1400 american muslims you interviewed across the nation and you asked questions about religion and civic and political conversation. what do you find most surprised you in all of this. you guys are moving in sync. let s start with you. sure, thanks, ali. sorry. in fact what we found was the total opposite, that the musl muslim-american community is
december. it was front page news in the new york times. no one objected to our establishing such a center. rabbi arthur schneider was quoted. the rabbi of the jewish community center, with whom we had spoken and who welcomed the idea and who has given us enormous cooperation and support in telling us what works, what doesn t work, how to do this. led, is toe idea, so establish something like a musl y. you have the ymca was created 130 years ago to improve relationships between what was then called the american protestant religions, by having young men and young women of course, it was separate at the o time, ymca, ywca, come and bond by doing sports together and other programs together. it s been a worldwid phenomenon. the 92nd street y was the first attempt by the jewish center where you would create th kind of bonding. we are now, today, where the jewish community and the catholic community was maybe 70 years ago, a century ago. and this is our time and our turno do that. a c