setting where you can see between trees. it s very dense. i would have to think that if they are keeping those resources on the ground it s because we have good information that sweat is actually there. take us into the mindset. that s what you do casey, as a criminologist. what is the mindset of someone who has escaped from prison daring escape been on the lam for 22 days but until yesterday had a partner in crime with him. now he s alone. that s correct. sweat was very known back in his hometown and among his friends and family for being extremely organized. he had to make lists in order to do anything. this breakout took a year. he would have had a meticulous idea of how this was going to go. that s great if it goes according to plan but if the plan gets thrown off course these ocd people decompensate very quickly. inside the mind of matthew sweat if he s still alive which is a possibility we should consider or david sweat, is the idea that he is completely out of his element. h
freaked out, afraid and without his buddy, he may have no idea of what he s doing next. take me into the mind of the law enforcement officer who is going after david sweat right now, knowing that his fellow criminal richard matt had a gun and fired a shot at a civilian in an rv. law enforcement here having to protect themselves as well. if you go back a week and a half ago they were considered to be dangerous. we changed the profile at some point last week to armed and dangerous. that s because police knew or had reason to believe that some firearms were missing from cabins in that area. now he s still armed and dangerous. i think police we have to approach him with some sense of caution and right now you see the search going very deliberately, very cautiously and very slowly for good reason so no one else gets hurt. how does it change someone s mindset when they know at the best case scenario they are going to be going back to prison under even worse circumstances for life than
state. the adirondacks, not too far from canada. what we re learning is that 1,100 law enforcement, from federal, state, local, tribal police they are all behind me in those mountains in those woods. but it is so eerily silent. you don t hear a thing. you don t hear vehicles. you don t hear atvs. you don t hear helicopters above you. but we can t imagine the emotions that they must have at this point. this is a manhunt. they know that they got one, and they ve got to find the other. because he is a convicted murderer david sweat, who shot and killed the 2 2 bullets into a law enforcement officer some years back. that has to produce emotions besides the safety and welfare of this community. there are people that live in these hills and these mountains behind me where law enforcement is actively searching. i was going to ask you about that. it looks like there s lots and lots of woods there. are they protecting those little cabins and perhaps those little
i haven t heard one person we never are not one person regrets the outcome of this. he was armed and dangerous, he had murdered two people before and he wasn t going to stop. i truly believe that the shot he fired at that camper was meant to disable the vehicle or shoot the driver so that he could commandeer the vehicle. that kind of shot why do that? why draw attention to him? i think we are very lucky no one decide in the act of getting mr. matt. absolutely. tom, you have these 1200 officers on the trail right now, using helicopters, using planes with infrared devices, using bloodhounds. do you still operate under the belief that these two men were indeed together as of late yesterday if they have zero idea it sounds like where sweat is right now? no eyes. i think we just don t know for sure what they know. they have been very controlled in what they have given out publicly. if they are keeping all 1100 officers on that perimeter, the
this is not a christian nation. it s a secular nation. so people who are atheist, people from different religions or people who are christian but don t believe the same thing i believe, they should be able to live freely just like me. that s what makes america beautiful, right? yeah it is freedom for everyone. so nice to have you on the program. please come back. i would love to come back. thanks for having me. have a great service tomorrow. thank you. straight ahead, we return to upstate new york. we are live from the scene of that intense search for convicted murderer david sweat, who is still on the run. we call ourselves the freedom hikers. hiking brought us together but that s not the only thing that keeps us coming back. here s to friends who reach for better. fewer carbs, fewer calories, superior taste. michelob ultra. the superior light beer. no artificial flavors, colors sweeteners preservatives, and no artificial smiles.