professional conman. and now we have a conman, a true conman, sitting in congress. and if you love the institution of congress, you can t tolerate that. do i understand the politics and how he feels squeezed by only having a five-seat majority? i do. do i think he might maybe should think a little bit longer term about the perception of the party of tolerating unethical, probably illegal behavior? absolutely. i mean, if mccarthy were to call me, i d say, cut this guy loose as quickly as you possibly can. what about the argument of, you know, wait for the ethics committee, which is going to be multi-week, multi-month, and that allows him to stay, you know, and i guess vote with mccarthy and help mccarthy out and yet make the argument he s being investigated. it seems like there s an awful lot of evidence just in the public domain. it s not as if the ethics
tolerating unethical probably illegal behavior absolutely? i mean, if mccarthy were to call me i d say, cut this guy loose as quickly as you possibly can. anderson: what about the groom of wait for ethics committee, which will be you know, multi-week, multi-month, and that allows him to stay you know, and i guess vote with mccarthy and help mccarthy out and yet make the argument he s being investigated. seems like there s an awful lot of evidence just in the public domain it s not as if the ethics committee has access that the public doesn t they should go forward with the process, but members can exercise judgment they have responsibility for protecting that institution, the public has a poor view of the ethics of people in congress and in pain to say that i think there s a lot of honest good people, there they need to stand up and say this is not somebody who belongs here. people of the they re congressional district in new york, which was next to mine
have touched it. is this broader than you think we all expect it to be? it looks like the justice department is coming back to what this was at the beginning, which was a very broad, multi-month, multi-pronged conspiracy to overturn an election. of course it s going to be broad. of course it s going to involve lots of people, lots of cell phones. i think we ve only still scratched the surface of it. each of these targets is probably going to lead to more targets, more people, more conversations as the justice department gets the full picture. now, for years, we ve been talking about people in trump s orbit who kind of roll their eyes every time there s a new investigation into trump. now those same people are rolling into a ball, because they re getting pulled into the investigation with subpoenas and, you know, evan just hit on part of it, but think about the whole picture right now that s enveloping these people. you ve got the manhattan d.a. who s looking into the trump organizati
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they re building. do you think they hear from ginni thomas without that subpoena? they ll have to go to that step if they want her in front of the committee? i would imagine if she wants to be held to her promise to voluntarily testify, they would get quite a lot of vol aluable information. but i don t think this committee wants to go through a multi-month or year legal tangle trying to get her to show up. if she wants to resist the subpoena, she of course has the right, like anybody else, to resist the subpoena, to bring up whatever facts or arguments she might choose to create to try to fend that off. but we re in such in tried territory before. we ve never had the wife of a supreme court justice acting in this way. what concerns they most, the 29 emails she sent to members of the arizona state legislature urging them to support a slate of fake electors. this has never happened before. so i don t know if they re going to necessarily choose to make this the story, and maybe even