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the breaking news in the new york times, the headline, mueller zooms in on trump tower cover story. the allegation that hope hicks on a conference call said this about those e-mails donald trump jr. wrote, expressing his eagerness for political dirt from russia. the e-mails, quote, will never get out. that s what the times is reporting. a former trump legal team spokesman marc carullo will tell special counsel mueller. they re sourcing it to three people unnamed. the e-mails, quote, will never get out. a lawyer for hope hicks denies carullo s allegation. he said she never sail actually said that. the e-mails, of course, did get out. the panel is back with us. joining us as well is van jones and jack kingston. jack, the times piece makes the point that even if hope hicks was suggesting that the e-mails could be kept secret, it would be too late because copies of them had already been requested and prepared to send to capitol hill. does any of that give her wiggle room? it certai
to the fact of, did you know about this, were you involved, and he hemmed and hawed and quigley followed up with an important question, did your staff work with the white house. the reason that particular question is important, is as your viewers will recall, nunes took a big step back from this investigation, but what i have been told, what i m hearing from my sources as i ve followed this story closely is that while nunes himself took a big step back, his staff kept doing what they were doing and very much run being the show in his stead. so what quigley is asking, even if nunes himself weren t involved in going back and forth between the hill and the white house, did he and his staff know what they were doing, and when quigley pressed him on that and tried to get a clear answer, nunes said time for somebody else to ask a question, i don t want to talk about this. it really tells you what nunes isn t willing to say about the work his staff are doing on this
year, ad nauseam, it s kind of a remarkable thing, right? it s become this sort of remarkable pattern with this presidency, that when it comes to meetings with high-ranking russian officials, the one thing we re not allowed to find out for ourselves, one thing that we have to get from another country about the behavior of our own president is any news about his contacts with russia. and apparently, it s not just the president. this is a story that started to break last night just before the state of the union and then it broke wide open this morning. reuters was the first english-language news source to report about a high-level meeting, indeed, a high-level visit to the united states by an important russian government official. in this case, by the chief of russia s foreign intelligence service. the sbr. now this is amazing for a few reasons. first of all, once again, i m thankful to reuters that they
if this happened, then this firestorm it helped create to help undermine the fbi investigation into itself, into the white house. so this is the white house putting out a document that it wrote to defend itself against the fbi s investigation. and releasing classified information in the process. i know you probably wouldn t wish a life in congress on your worst enemy, but these kind of fights that they re having shows you why it really matters who s there, and sometimes they deal with stuff that is not just consequential, it is freaking compelling to read it word for word. told you this was going to be a really big show. we ll be back with the reporter who s right at the heart of this story. stay with us. we got married after college. and had twin boys. but then one night, a truck didn t stop. but thanks to our forester, neither did our story.