capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions. does this mean that mueller cannot legally indict the president without first going to the supreme court? or does it mean that he should not indict a president? i think it s more a question of should, alex. an internal doj legal opinion like this isn t a binding thing, it s not something someone could enforce in court or use as a basis to get an indictment dismissed. but the nature of the special counsel regulations,ing mule certificate not an independent counsel. he has to report to the deputy attorney general in this case, robert rosenstein, who hopefully will continue in that position. he would have to ask permission, essentially from the doj leadership, to go against a standing or revisit a standing internal justice department legal opinion. it just seems to me very unlikely that mueller would seek that permission. much less that it would be granted. that the department would be persuaded to revi
so i m going to ask you to interpret that. have you figured it out? will we see at saturday night massacre? i would bet that the president is after rod rosenstein. i think it s fairly plain to say he is. and of course if he goes after rod rosenstein, then he gets to appoint somebody in rosenstein s place, and that person could see reason to fire robert mueller, which would trigger a constitutional crisis. mueller cannot be fired. his investigations should be allowed to go on unimpeded. rosenstein is clearly in trouble here with the president. i m curious how the and i will get this to zerlina first. the response from christopher wray. here s part of the memo he released to the fbi community yesterday saying we speak through your work. we do that work and we stay laser focused on doing great
if the campaign is under investigation and you re a principal person in the campaign you can t let a campaign investigate itself. jeff sessions had to step aside because he is so prominent in the trump campaign. mr. rosen stein appointed mr. mueller who has a lot of respect on both sides of the aisle to look at all things russia and i hope he will look at fusion gps. i ll ask him to do that and look at the ukraine s potential collusion with the democratic party, the new f.b.i. director will do that. at the end of the day mr. mueller cannot be fired by the president. he cannot be dismissed by any attorney general unless there is cause. and what i want to make sure is that a court would look at the dismissal as a check and balance against abuse of power by anybody. shannon: i want to ask you, knowing jeff sessions as you do, do you think he would resign or do you think the president if he wants to is going to have to step up and fire him? i think the president will have to fire him.
it s a reflexive instinct to dismiss that story to take down the president rather than a threat to national security. everybody is mobilized and chuck said on my radio show up. don t get a way of a election unless one side is demoralized and nobody is yet. mueller cannot be fired. that would be a disaster. if he comes up with one indictment of someone in the satellite orbit of donald trump, the democrats have something to run on. i have a fear, thesis, whatever you want to call it, that the person most interested in making 2018 referendum on impeachment will not be the democrats, but it will be donald trump. yes. yeah. because the threat of losing him will make folks that are not happy with him you make it a you essentially make it a recall race, right? how did scott walker successfully win that recall at the time? he had obama people saying,
don t do this this way. this is not how we do it. it might be in affect to strategy, and it could rip the democratic party in half. i don t think it would. i think if mueller comes back with evidence of wrongdoing, democrats would be unified and seeing that to the end. i m curious about when you say everybody is energized and nobody is demoralized. i m considered a squishy conservative. republican ideologically, you re a republican. conservative with a smile. we re not upset with anything yet. if health care craters and they don t deliver, there are three core promises. the supreme court, of gorsuch and scalia, who ray. that will be very important, and then health care. if the ship is on fire and they don t deliver something, my side