to talk about these issues than actually be president of the united states. this is a really tough, tough situation. it s not just for us. it s we are talking about generational. we need to figure out how to move some really big pieces. how do we get saudi arabia to stop spending billions of dollars on medieval theology that they promote around the muslim world instead of spending that same mrn ononey that would educate the world. bring egypt out of its problems. we need to look at real powers in this region and figure out how to move them into the 21st century. david von draele thank you so much for being with us. david s written a great article,
more stable when i had the assads running syria and when you had saddam hussein running egypt and running iraq and mubarak running egypt. it was more stable. but it was more stable on the surface and all this stuff was bubbling up underneath. now we see it erupt. so that was the problem. you can make it stable on top but this stuff bubbles up and this is a result. all right. still ahead, deputy secretary of state stkecretary of state tony blinken will be here. we ll be right back. its effects on society really came about because, not because i was selfish and wanted one for myself, which i did. its because i had, had a passion. my whole life i wanted to teach myself to build computers. i wanted to build these things for free. i just wanted to do it for the world and you know when you want something, that s what you do the best.